Originally Posted by X-Mode
I am currently cross-shopping the 2013 Toyota RAV4 and the 2014 Subaru Forester.
Slightly, OK, a lot off topic, but my experience with Frontier Subaru is..... they SUCK! No parts, very small and busy service dep't, and very expensive service. I test drove a Frontier when it was still independently owned and I was not impressed with the sales process, and the facility.
They have since been sold to the Jim Pattison Auto Group. Apparently they're opening a second Subie dealership in Winnipeg in early 2014, but I don't know where.
I almost and should have bought my '13 RAV from Frontier Toyota, also now part of Pattison. I ended up getting it from McPhillips and that sales experience was the worst. They F'd up the order, the delivery, the followup, everything. However, they did have the best price, $425 over dealer cost. I have heard bad things also about the new Crown Toyota, as in their being very hard to deal with and not providing a transparent purchase.
Woodhaven, too expensive but good service, being part of the Birchwood Group.
Of course YMMV on all aspects of the buying and owning of either a RAV or Subie. I'm just relating my experience with these two SUV's.
Back to the topic, my RAV burns no oil and is an excellent, well built vehicle. I'm very happy.