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#41 (permalink) Old 12-25-2012, 01:11 PM
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I drove one too and I was amazed at the handling, felt more like a sports car than a SUV. I hope they bring that turbo diesel over here, but even with out extra power, it still is sufficient to have a blast driving it.

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I also seriously considered the Mazda, but it wasn't available in either the exterior or interior colors I wanted.

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Interior colours

That's a good point , CX5 interior colour choice is rather poor. Years ago I was ready to buy the present 6 ,but again it felt inside like a family catacomb.
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Yes, while color preferences are individulistic, for me sitting in the Mazda was like being in a dark prison cell - or a catacomb . . .

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The RAV4 was never designed for "adventuresome off-road capabilities." Maybe a well-traveled dirt road, but that's about it. How many of us have ever gone "4-wheelin" in our RAV? The idea that the 2013 model RAV is really different from previous RAVs, that with it Toyota has abandoned one constituency (the rugged 4-wheelin dude) in favor of another (soccer moms) is hilarious. As far as our RAVs are concerned, most of us are soccer moms.

If my 2011 4 cyl. 4-wd had come with a 5 speed, I doubt I'd be looking at something else. But since it's only a 4 speed, and its mpg is not that good, I'm going to move up to the new model 6 speed RAV as soon as the bugs are out of it. And I may even go with the 2-wd this time.
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I wonder if you'll order new Rav with shopping mall convenience package. If there no difference for you how high is the ground clearance then why bother with Rav when you can get a station wagon with better fe .
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The idea that the 2013 model RAV is really different from previous RAVs, that with it Toyota has abandoned one constituency (the rugged 4-wheelin dude) in favor of another (soccer moms) is hilarious. As far as our RAVs are concerned, most of us are soccer moms.

If my 2011 4 cyl. 4-wd had come with a 5 speed, I doubt I'd be looking at something else. But since it's only a 4 speed, and its mpg is not that good, I'm going to move up to the new model 6 speed RAV as soon as the bugs are out of it. And I may even go with the 2-wd this time.
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I don't think anybody ever claimed the RAV4 was a rock crawler. It's been a "soft roader," not an "off roader." But at least where I am when you get many inches of snow at a time, the loss in ground clearance in the 4.4 CAN make a significant difference. It could readily be the difference between getting stuck and being able to move (or even leave).

Then there's the inability of the 4.4 RAV4 to tow anything heavier than...a shopping cart. Ok, that's an exaggeration, but towing can be useful for many people, other than just rock crawlers.

If you're on a road trip and get a flat tire, having an easy to access full sized spare that can go thousands of miles at any speed can be quite helpful, especially if you're in the middle of nowhere with a load of cargo (e.g. luggage) in the back when it happens. In the 4.4 you have to unload your cargo just to get to the "training wheel" spare tire. Hope for your cargo's sake that it isn't raining. And hope that you don't have to go very far, or very fast. And hope that you have room to put the full sized, dirty flat tire in right next to your cargo. In the 4.3 you can put the flat tire back on the swing gate. Easy peasy.

The loss of the underfloor storage bins is also a major bummer. I keep jumper cables and a "winter kit" (blankets, gloves, etc.) and a first aid kit plus the tow hitch ball mount and ball when not in use in there, without the loss of any regular cargo space. Plus they don't slide around.

Make no mistake about it: Some really useful and functional features for regular people (other than just soccer moms) have been lost in the 4.4 re"design." Thankfully, at least they added French stitching to the dash and plastic-covered seats.

But I really do hope you enjoy your future Toyota CR-W. I'm sure you'll have a great time taking it back and forth to the grocery store.


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LOL!!!!

Don't forget the optional cosmetics holders and tampon dispenser.

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That and a price check scanner.
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But I really do hope you enjoy your future Toyota CR-W. I'm sure you'll have a great time taking it back and forth to the grocery store.

DVS, Most of the year I'm on a V-Twin cruiser, you know, a motorcycle: a 103 cubic inch that would eat your RAV for breakfast. That's where I get my rocks off. I get into my RAV only when I have to, and when I do I don't dupe myself into thinking I'm cool. Here's a news flash for you. When you're in a RAV4, you're a soccer mom. You may think you're cool but you're not. If you want to be cool, buy a Jeep (or a v-twin cruiser, but that would assume a set of balls, which I suspect you don't have).

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That and a price check scanner.
Good one!

Let's not forget the optional coupon printer, too!

Those Entune apps get better and better.


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