Originally Posted by DVS
Can't do it. The maximum towing capacity on the (current) 4.4 is only about 40% of what you could get on the 4.3, and what I have on my 4.3. Plus I find the 4.3 notably more functionally versatile than the 4.4 as well.
In my opinion the loss of available power, towing capacity, ground clearance, storage, etc. ("utility") have firmly moved the 2013 RAV4 from "Compact SUV" to "car," and that's not quite enough for me. I went shopping for a Compact SUV, not a car.
To call the 2013 RAV4 any kind of SUV doesn't seem right to me. I think of the 2013 RAV4 more as the Toyota Matrix's bigger brother than the Toyota Highlander's little brother, which is how I think of the 4.3s because of what was available for them.
Maybe someday a future 4.4 model year will return with more utility available, at least a more powerful engine. So I can't say I would never trade my 4.3 in for a "4.4," but I can say I would never trade my 4.3 in for a 2013 RAV4.
Not to burst your bubble but the 4.3 and 4.4 Rav's are both CUV's. The astro van was more suv than the 4.3 Rav.
Toyota did exactly what it meant/had to do when it freshened the new rav. Every vehicle on the market that is going to redesigned now and in the future will get a little lower and smaller engine to conform to the strict mpg's that the manufacturer as a whole has to meet. With that everyone is demanding higher quality materials, quieter better handling cars with more technology.
This new rav is just as rugged as the old yet more refined. It just has a softer appearence, yes I am not a fan of the black plastic either... Would I love to see a bigger option engine? Heck ya, and they might in the future to better compete with the others, or atleast offer a turbo top option?
If they did that towing would probably be the same as today's... isn't the new one only an inch lower?
@Smith, I don't see how 121lbs of payload can make a purchase difference. Do you really calculate and get that close to where it makes a difference? If you are getting that close to your payload regularly maybe a larger cuv would fit your needs better? That is like the guys who tow right at the max with a 1/2 ton on a regular basis when they should have bought a 3/4 ton to better suit their needs more comfortably.
I think this new Rav better aligns with the competiton it is directed at rather than try to appear to be something else it isn't. They could have easily tried to keep more along the lines of a rugged look but at the espense of mpg and other stuff like wind noise when it would have the same capability as the new one.
Also, isn't there storage next to the spare in the floor of the new one? Maybe half as much as the old though?