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10,000 mile oil change interval? Even for 1st oil change?

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we have a 2013 RAV4 Limited. I was surprised when our dealer said that the oil change interval was 10,000 miles. I may be mistaken, but I always thought that the first oil change should happen fairly quickly, because of all of the metal shavings, etc., that can accumulate when a brand new car is commissioned. Now, that may be total malarkey, but I did that with our 2002 Camry and it didn't seem to hurt anything, and she is still going very strong after 140,000 miles.

I guess I have two questions:

1. Does my notion of swapping out the first batch of oil at around 1,000 miles make any sense?

2. Beyond that, are you all going to absolutely adhere to the 10,000 oil change intervals? That seems awfully long to me, but then again I am sure that the technology is much improved since I started driving 35 years ago.
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I plan to change out my oil at around 1 000 miles (1 600 km for us). I agree with you. There has to be remnants of machining and assembly lube floating around in the oil.

I won't go 10 000 miles (16 000 km) between changes. I'll likely change it 2 times/year, regardless of mileage. I live in an extreme climate with short but hot summers and very long cold winters.

I do all my own maintenance, so it isn't a big deal for me. Genuine Toyota cartridge oil filters are $3 each on eBay, and the required 0W-20 synthetic is now sold just about everywhere and often on sale.

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There was another thread here recently about this topic. There were various opinions.

In the end, it's not hurting anything to get your oil changed early. My dealer is saying every 5000mi. is appropriate.

I just had my first oil change at 3500 miles after reading the other thread so if anything happened to be floating around or in the oil filter, it's gone.

It's cheap to do and you can breathe easier about it all.

We have just lost cabin pressure.
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Old habits are hard to break........major advances in oil technology, super tight tolerances on engines (not all the slop and wear of the old days), very efficient cooling systems, and low revving <6-speed> engines, make frequent oil changes unnecessary.

My Goldwing motorcycle (Gl1800) has come with an 8K mile oil change interval since 2001. There are Wings out there with 350K miles on them with zero issues other than normal maintenance.

Call me a fool but I'm following the manual and going 10K oil changes.
Will I regret it in a few years? Time will tell but I highly doubt it.
I will use 100% synthetic though.

Engine failures due to oil issues are very very rare now days.

Bottom line.....Do what makes you feel good.
More fequent oil changes sure won't hurt anything but are probably not necessary IMHO.

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I doubt Toyota would recommend oil changes less than necessary considering a lot of people get them done at dealerships and they want their dealerships to do well. I'm going by the book.

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Engine oil failures may be very rare but I'd bet they're non-existent, due to changing oil a little early.

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This is such a controversial topic. I'm still old school, which I'm sure is unnecessary, but I like to see clean oil on my dipstick. Considering oil is the lifeblood of any engine, I don't stretch that blood to its limits. I suppose if I had to pay someone to change my oil and filter, I'd probably be less anal.

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Old habits are hard to break........major advances in oil technology, super tight tolerances on engines (not all the slop and wear of the old days), very efficient cooling systems, and low revving <6-speed> engines, make frequent oil changes unnecessary.

My Goldwing motorcycle (Gl1800) has come with an 8K mile oil change interval since 2001. There are Wings out there with 350K miles on them with zero issues other than normal maintenance.

Call me a fool but I'm following the manual and going 10K oil changes.
Will I regret it in a few years? Time will tell but I highly doubt it.
I will use 100% synthetic though.

Engine failures due to oil issues are very very rare now days.

Bottom line.....Do what makes you feel good.
More fequent oil changes sure won't hurt anything but are probably not necessary IMHO.
I agree with this. The dealer told me every 10,000 miles but the sticker on the windshield says 5,000 so my first will be around 5,000, maybe earlier, but after that, every 10,000.
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This is such a controversial topic. I'm still old school, which I'm sure is unnecessary, but I like to see clean oil on my dipstick. Considering oil is the lifeblood of any engine, I don't stretch that blood to its limits. I suppose if I had to pay someone to change my oil and filter, I'd probably be less anal.
Nothing wrong with changing oil early, especially if you do it yourself. So much cheaper to do it yourself.
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Just had my initial 0W-20 synthetic oil change today @ 1750 miles.....OK, this probably isn't needed either but I've always got the factory stuff out of my vehicles before 2K miles.

From here on out it's 10K intervals which should translate to about every 7-8 months for me.

Wish me luck.

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Just had my initial 0W-20 synthetic oil change today @ 1750 miles.....OK, this probably isn't needed either but I've always got the factory stuff out of my vehicles before 2K miles.
A wise choice in my books.

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