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This made me bust out laughing but then...scary because I seriously wouldn't be surprised if they did.
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what you should do is get yourself a reputable independent mechanic, ask around friends and familly

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The times I've been in the market for another car I'm always amused at what the so-called *FINANCE MGR* has to say about extended warranties....something you can get on your own if the car is brand new from your own insurance company for more than half than what the dealer charges....
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Well that's just great! I paid $113 for labor, $18 for parts, and $18 for "shop supply"!! Well I guess my RAV4 wont ever be needing brake flush for another 5yr/60k!

Next time I'm taking the Maintenance Schedule book with me at my next service.
If the only thing you did from the mess the Dealer suggested, you came out okay. After all, the Canadian Schedule says 4yr/40k miles for the brake fluid change, so according to that at 44k you were 'due.' And yeah, you should rest easy about brake fluid till you hit 100k or so! The other stuff was overpriced and bogus.

When I was in for some warranty work, the dealer quoted me $250 for a brake flush. Uh. No. Thanks. So your price doesn't seem to bad, the labor charge seems reasonable for about an hour. Of course, that assumes they even did anything.

The point of my earlier post is there are a lot of opinions on this--even between Toyota Canada and Toyota USA. And since my Canadian built RAV lives in weather similar to Canada, I'm using their schedule! My own feeling about it is that the USA schedule (no brake fluid service at all) is flawed, if concerned about long term ownership.

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So glad I lease. Fuhgettaboutit!


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So glad I lease. Fuhgettaboutit!
So when you said earlier brake fluid is good for the life of most vehicles, you meant life of a lease? True that.

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The times I've been in the market for another car I'm always amused at what the so-called *FINANCE MGR* has to say about extended warranties....something you can get on your own if the car is brand new from your own insurance company for more than half than what the dealer charges....
The last time I had a finance manager try hard to sell me an extended warranty by "scaring" me with the thought of large repair bills I said "You know I'm not sure this is the right car for me if it's so prone to problems". She backed off pretty quickly.
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Not to the extent that it needs to be flushed during the life of most vehicles.


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RTexasF (Post #6) is correct.

I have a tester and test the brake fluid in my RAV for moisture. After 2-3 years the tester shows the brake fluid has absorbed enough moisture so that it should be changed. Also moisture in brake fluid will corrode metal brake system parts with which it comes into contact.

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Most of those services are a cash cow for the dealer. Changing the brake fluid is not one of them. As has been said ALL brake fluid absorbs moisture.

That does two things & both are bad.

1. The moisture moves to the lowest parts of the brake system causing the pistons & cylinders in the brake calipers to corrode. Not a cheap fix when it happens.

2. The moisture contaminated brake fluid now has a lower boiling point. In hard use your brake fluid will boil. That equals no brakes when you need them. Spend the money on this service it can save you, your family & other road users.

PS: It is due every two years.
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Wow, what a bunch of crooks! I work for a Toyota dealership and none of that is required for your RAV4. However on German cars the brake flush is necessary when you have dot 4 brake fluid which absorbs water as it states. Toyota only uses dot 3 fluid, so you are fine.
I think this is incorrect advice. DOT 3 brake fluid definitely does absorb water, otherwise why would the DOT 3 certification include tests for both wet and dry boiling points? See paragraph S5.1.2 of this document (page 328).
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