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post #11 of 607 (permalink) Old 07-30-2008, 05:43 PM
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OK, so 2 days ago my 2002 rav4 with 60,000 miles started hesitating and having harsh shifting. It drives like a stick shift car and kicks at every gears. So I took the car in and the dealership re-flash the ECM again (it was re-flash once in 2007). They called me up and told me that the car is ready but they also have an ECU on order because the ECU tested bad. So tomorrow, I'm getting my ECU installed (parts and labor cover under warranty)

Will replacing the ECU fix the problem or should they replace the ECM also?
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OK so the ECU is the same as ECM...I didn't know that.
Thought I'll give you guys the update.....

I went to pick up my car today and the tech was shocked with all the info I gave him.

I printed out the TBS and 50 page of complaints from all these different site.
I had put all the info on the passenger seat on purpose so they will see that I
did my research. That's the main reason why the tech decided to replace the ECU
and realized that I know what I'm talking about so they can't lie to me.

So I had drove the car for 30 miles on the freeway and city streets. So far, it's shifting like it should be. No problem yet (knock on wood).
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No wonder my rav isn't shifting right! I knew there was something wrong even though the mechanic said there was nothing!
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TOYOTA RAV 4 2001 1007,000 KM. ECU - TRANSMISSION ISSUES,
I have had the same issues with the ECU as you all manifesting with the transmission suddenly slipping, literally an overnight phenomenon.
I had the car checked by usual mechanic with handheld computer diagnostics, no fault codes;, however symptoms still there so stopped driving the car and started to ring around to inform myself.
The answers came back thick and fast, it was as if every one could diagnose the problem without even seeing the car, they literally told me what year and model car I had after briefly describing the problems.
"Change the ECU [$ 1700- $2100] and if you are lucky that may fix the problem, if unlucky and you drove the car without noticing in time the transmission will need replacing[$3500 -7500]" was the standard reply.
After reading all the posts on web about this and speaking to dozens of independent transmission workshop Experts & Mechanics, I have contacted NRMA, Dept of fair trading, and Channel Seven and Nine regarding doing a story on their "current affair", & "Today Tonight" programs as their are some massive safety issues related to this situation, [ my wife & two young children were nearly rammed by other vehicles several times at traffic lights because of transmission suddenly slipping, the media are interested in this !!!.
I have several experts willing to go on record and speak about this issue.
Let me know if you want to form a group to bring this issue into public awareness thus encouraging Toyota to take responsibility for their products and stop sweeping this under the carpet.
After my local Toyota workshop, replaced the ECU [$ 1682] the vehicle seemed Ok, but as the transmission will not show up any fault code if it is damaged only time will tell !
Confidence in the brand Toyota is now at a very low point with me.
Before paying my repair bill I contacted Toyota customer relations Sydney/ Taren Point /Tel; 02 9710 3333 and made a serious complaint regarding this issue and informed them of my awareness of just how widespread this issue is and how the media is interested in doing a story on this matter, [ in 2006 these vehicles were recalled in the USA for software upgrade a free service ], Anyway they spoke to the dealer, the dealer spoke to the warranty dept ,and lo and behold they came to the party and reduced my repair bill by $ 800 This is a start however I am convinced that this should be a free recall service and if transmissions are damaged due to a faulty ECU that controls it the transmission is by definition COLLATERAL DAMAGE for wich Toyota also should be responsible and prepared to assist their loyal [till now] customers.
IF YOU HAVE YOUR CAR REPAIRED BY TOYOTA YOU COULD TRY TO CALL CUSTOMER SERVICE PRIOR TO PAYING YOUR BILL AND HOPEFULLY THIS WAY YOU TOO CAN AT LEAST SAVE SOME MONEY AND COLLECTIVELLY WE WILL EVENTUALLY ENCOURAGE TOYOTA TO ADJUST THEIR DENIAL STRATEGY ABOUT THIS MATTER.
PLEASE RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT THIS ISSUE & TELL EVERYONE YOU KNOW!
 
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Just had the auto tranny problem in my 02 Rav. Toyota warranty was honored by the local dealer. I was within the time and mileage so no problem.
Sorry but it looks as if Toyota is strict about the warranty. By the way, get it fixed!! The auto tranny is burning up the disks inside and the tranny fix is much more costly than the ECM.
 
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*sigh* Read all the threads in this forum about this issue and unfortunatly I have the same problem with my 2000/2001 Rav4 Cruiser with 183,000 kms.

Issue actually occured today and i pulled over at a mates place as i want to cause as little damage as possible. It is quite bad.

What should I do? Just goto my local mehcanic and tell him the information Ive read and replace ECU? Or should i Goto a Toyota dealer and try to get them to fix it for free.

My car is obviously out of warranty and way over 80,00kms. Do i have to pay for this bull**** problem? or will a toyota dealer sort it out.

ps... Need a dam car for work and mechanics are all on holiday, wont be able to get this sorted for at least another 2days. (xmas break)
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Try to search eBay with appropriate keywords. It might save you some money.
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Just got back from Toyota Dealers.

Told them the situation i am in and the information i know. 1 guy understood and was considerate in my situation where as another guy suggested that i went to a transmission specialist and get the gearbox fixed.

But i quickly changed his mind after i explain the situation and told him of this forum and the petition and lawsuit and ALSO that it has happend to my older Sister's car which is the exact same model which we brought on the same day. (true story, happend to her car at around 200xxx, mechanic said computer says no faults so they changed gear box with 2nd hand low ks, and problem was still there THEN they did the computer and it was fixed after all the hassle and it cost them more)

So i told him..i just want the dam computer changed but he kept opting and telling me that would be a bad road to take if i am putting my trust with 'some internet group'. But after i told him everything he said ok sure but we wont guarantee anything.

I told them thats fine..i just wanna leave the car here to get sorted as i dont wanna drive the car risking more gear box problems.

im waiting on a call from them, will let you guys know what happens next.

*sigh*
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To continue on from the last post.

The bloke ended up calling me and said that they had the part and he wanted the all clear for him to go through with what i wanted him to do. Just before he rang me, i found out on one of these forums that simply resetting/flashing the ECU would help.

So when he rang, i told him ' is it possible to just reset the Ecu? because i thiink that will fix the problem and it will be a cheaper alternative' he simply replied, no i cannot, i do not have the equipment to do that. I took his word for it and because i was in desperate need of a car for work. I went through with it only later to find out that after talking to my brother in law with the same car. He said his mechanic was able to reset the ECu by simply arching 2 wires together.

If i had known that was the case i would have taken it to him but because i was desperate and did not want to drive the car around causing more damage, i guess iw as forced to make that decision i did which i am kicking myself over cause i spent $1700. But sheesh, the toyota guy pretty much bull****ed to me just so that he could sell some parts and charge me for profit and labour.
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I do not know where you found that reset helps. From what I have know it does not.

Check site http://www.rav4ecm.net/

Read it, HTH
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