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Ignition barrel problem

First may I offer my condolences to the citizens of France.

1998 Rav4.1.
My problem pales into insignificance, but nevertheless it is causing me a problem.
I am having a problem turning the key in the ignition lock, so yesterday I had a new key cut, which does make the problem a little better. Only problem is that the new key has not been programmed and does not have the necessary chip installed, so, I am now starting the Rav holding the old key close to the ignition switch whilst using the new key to switch the engine on, and it works to a degree. The new key has the facility to take the chip from the old key. My question is, How do I get the chip out of the old Key? There is no visible means of opening the key. Do I have to somehow break into the old key without damaging the chip?
Any help or advice would be really welcomed.
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My 99 US model doesn't have any chips in the keys.
I would be surprised if your 98 has them.

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Hi Roundabout,
Welcome from Sunny UK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It"s pouring with rain actually, which is not uncommon!!!!!
The UK spec Rav 4.1 has an immobiliser, as does, I suspect the US version. So when you insert the key into the ignition barrel the micro chip in the key sends a message to the immobiliser to enable it to start the engine. Now I have a new key cut by an Auto locksmith it will not on it"s own start the engine, but if I hold the old key next to the ignition switch and then insert the new key into the switch, the engine starts.
My problem is, how do I get the Micro chip out of the old key without damaging it.
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My 99 US model doesn't have any chips in the keys.
I would be surprised if your 98 has them.
It probably is a region specific feature:
Build in immobiliser. Start only with one of the two keys.

The chip is molded insight the "rubbery" part, I cannot think of a non-destructive way to extract it. You could try cutting the edges of the rubber, pry it open and then secure the salvaged part onto the new key blade with electrical tape. The risk of damaging the chip is obvious though...

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My problem is, how do I get the Micro chip out of the old key without damaging it.
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This video will show you how to extract the chip:


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Hi JuneBug,
Brilliant, your suggestion was absolutely brilliant. I have just spent 10 to 15 minutes splitting one of the original keys with a Stanley knife, extracted the Transponder chip and placed it in the new key which has a plastic holder for a variety of chips, AND IT WORKS.
Thanks from a very happy Welshman..
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