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Cheap Differential Mount rehab

24K views 18 replies 10 participants last post by  sleeveless1  
#1 ·
The rear mount for my differential has started to fail, with most of the rubber detached from the metal housing. While I could order a new one from Toyota, I decided to try a cheap trick used in the hotrod world to stiffen motor mounts -- filling the mount with urethane.

I used 3M Window Weld, available at many auto parts stores in the US, to fill in the voids of the mount. The black urethane material has a shore hardness rating of 50-60a, with is relatively firm but still flexible. Some of the high-horsepower guys use a filler that's in the 80-90 shore range, which provides a very stiff mount that can transmit a lot of vibration and torque into the body of the car.

Here's a DIY article on someone using Window Weld to fill a motor mount:
http://importnut.net/motormount.htm

Here's pics of my mount and the finished product:

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It's hard to tell in this picture, but the only part of the mount attached to the housing are the two big tabs. And the tab on the left has begun to tear away from the mount.


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The finished product curing on a shelf. It takes 24-48 hours to fully cure. I started filling only the voids around the rubber, but ended just filling the entire thing. I left the existing rubber in place, completely encased in the window weld material. With the mount attached to the differential, it's possible to wiggle it back and forth just a bit -- I would say it's firm but not solid.

After a couple days of driving I’ve felt no hint of vibration and no odd clunks or other sounds from the rear. The mount seems to be working as it should.

Only time will tell if this was a good idea. The Window Weld cost me around $15, so I'm not risking too much. However, I would say it's a workable idea if you're on a tight budget.
 
#2 ·
I have done that on other things, with various results.

You can use anything that limits movement, how well it works depends on what you want, and how much you fill something.
Foam rubber, silicone adheasive sealant, rubber, etc.

Some things want a soft mount to kill vibrations, other things are not as critical.

Its easy to get to the almost rigid mount performance side, its a bit harder to get the soft but limited movement of a stock setup, most people go overboard...

Brett
 
#5 ·
We get the same CLUNK from the back , usually within the first minute or so as I shoot out of a side street into oncoming traffic :) It BANGS when I am changing from first to second .. maybe just after taking my foot of the gas - normally cold wet mornings !!

Anyways , got to look under our Rav today and he showed my the two diff/ suspension bushes ... one either side of the diff ant the rear of the car. Anyways ONE was fine but the other looked as though it had either rotted away or slipped out of place and wasn't working .

He's going to ring me with a price.

Any ideas what it should be costing me to have it renewed/replaced by the local garage ??
 
#8 ·
It helps if you have a mirror, because it's difficult to see all of it, but it's possible to see if it's torn apart or still intact. Also, get the car up on jacks and jerk around on the diff. If you have a lot of movement, then it's most likely bad.

By the way, my fix is still working after more than a year!
 
#9 ·
I have been having the clunk for sometime. Only 60,000 on rav but probably rubber goes bad with age too. Anyhow, pulled mine off and it looked just like the above pictures. Got the 3m window weld from checker auto for $15 today and am fixing it now. I am filling it all in like above too. Thanks for the information. will let ya know how it works.
 
#11 ·
Its been 48 hours since I filled in the bracket with window weld. At 12 hours still a bit soft but firm. At 48 hours, I would say it is close to being hard enough but since I do not need the rav yet, I will let it go another 24 hours just to make sure it is fully setup and hardened. Because it is filling a large void and all most an inch thick, I feel it would not hurt to let it fully dry through out. Will keep you posted after install in a day or so after I try it out.
 
#14 ·
I've used Black Window Silicone unstead of urethane.
Interesting choice. Did you check the hardness rating? In doing a quick search, I found that many RTV Silicones have a "shore a" hardness rating in the range of 20-25, compared to the 50-60 of the urethane material. If that's the case, it may be a little soft for this application. I look forward to your performance report!
 
#15 ·
So, I've done a road trip this week end and the clunk still there a little bit...Maybe the Silicone is to soft or maybe it's not the rear differential mount.
I've bought another differential mount at the junk yard for 5$ and I'll tried with Urethane to see if the clunk completely disapear.

I'll come back again with the result!
 
#17 ·
HI everyone. I have a clunk coming from the back of my rav:(. so this window weld stuff looks to be a cheap way to fix the problem, can the mount be fulled
with this stuff on the car or does the mounts have to be removed from the car:confused:
 
#19 ·
98 differential rear mount shot

Hi, would this repair work on a rear differential mount for a 98 AWD Rav?
I don't know where to buy a new mount.
The 98 mount has 2 bolts to the pumpkin so orientation is critical and I'm not sure if I remove the mount I will be able to achieve the correct alignment.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Sleeveless1