Stubborn to come out of 5th gear.

hungry_squirrel · 01-16-2013, 07:51 PM

When I am cruising on the highway, it takes a little force to get the RAV4 out of 5th gear (manual trans). There is no grinding or noises, it is just tough to pull it out. Anything I should be looking at? My RAV has almost 150,000 miles on it.

Thanks!

Blogson · 01-16-2013, 09:20 PM

Presumably you are downshiifting. Is it difficult to get the trans into the next gear when this happens? Preliminarily it would appear to be the clutch which is worn, or needs adjustment (if that is possible).

Ken Allistone · 01-17-2013, 01:12 PM

If you think the clutch pedal is a little low you can adjust it, there is an adjuster under the pedal - 2 x 10mm nuts, adjust so pedal comes up and lock together again.
I never had your problem (mine is notchy between first and second) but I changed the gearbox oil and it improved. I added something called Molyslip, probably not available over there but it is supposed to reduce friction, whatever, mine is very 'light' on changes now. Good luck.

hd72m · 01-17-2013, 09:17 PM

Try pushing in the clutch 2 times and move shifter on the 2nd time.
If it is better you have a clutch slave-master cylinder trouble starting.
Just something to try to narrow down your search.

chrisr · 01-24-2013, 04:54 AM

Is it tough to pull it out of 5th, or tough to get it into 4th afterwards?

If the latter, our RAV has the same problem - coming out of 5th, it sometimes won't go into 4th, and coming out of 2nd, it won't go into third. The reason (I'm pretty sure after experience with some other cars with cable change) is slop somewhere in the cable/linkage that engages/disengages the gear. You have two cables - one selects the 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, or 5th/reverse 'slots', the other pushes/pulls the gear thus selected into mesh. What can happen is, when you pull the lever out of 5th, the centreing spring pushes the lever across to the middle 3rd/4th plane before it's come fully back into neutral; the interlocks then won't allow another gear to be engaged because they're not fully released from 5th (although the gear is out of mesh by that point).

The 'cure' is to hold the lever in the 5th-gear plane (don't let it slop across to 4th early) until you've pulled it right back into the neutral position. Ditto coming out of 2nd to engage third. The real cure is to find the slack in the linkage and fix it - I haven't done that yet.

If, on the other hand, your gear lever is actually hard to pull out of 5th, then it's something else, please ignore what I wrote up there.

01-16-2013, 07:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
hungry_squirrel Junior Member Country: Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stubborn to come out of 5th gear. When I am cruising on the highway, it takes a little force to get the RAV4 out of 5th gear (manual trans). There is no grinding or noises, it is just tough to pull it out. Anything I should be looking at? My RAV has almost 150,000 miles on it. Thanks!

01-16-2013, 09:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blogson Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Oregon coast Posts: 2,169 Thanks: 14 Thanked 103 Times in 103 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Presumably you are downshiifting. Is it difficult to get the trans into the next gear when this happens? Preliminarily it would appear to be the clutch which is worn, or needs adjustment (if that is possible). __________________ Jim 2011 Upgraded Base V6 4WD 2007 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Classic LT 2002 Craftsman LT1000 V2 Jesus is Lord

01-17-2013, 01:12 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ken Allistone Member Country: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 176 Thanks: 8 Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you think the clutch pedal is a little low you can adjust it, there is an adjuster under the pedal - 2 x 10mm nuts, adjust so pedal comes up and lock together again. I never had your problem (mine is notchy between first and second) but I changed the gearbox oil and it improved. I added something called Molyslip, probably not available over there but it is supposed to reduce friction, whatever, mine is very 'light' on changes now. Good luck.

01-17-2013, 09:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
hd72m Advanced Member Country: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mt. Airy, North Carolina Posts: 1,598 Thanks: 20 Thanked 67 Times in 60 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Try pushing in the clutch 2 times and move shifter on the 2nd time. If it is better you have a clutch slave-master cylinder trouble starting. Just something to try to narrow down your search.

01-24-2013, 04:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
chrisr Junior Member Country: Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Auckland Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is it tough to pull it out of 5th, or tough to get it into 4th afterwards? If the latter, our RAV has the same problem - coming out of 5th, it sometimes won't go into 4th, and coming out of 2nd, it won't go into third. The reason (I'm pretty sure after experience with some other cars with cable change) is slop somewhere in the cable/linkage that engages/disengages the gear. You have two cables - one selects the 1st/2nd, 3rd/4th, or 5th/reverse 'slots', the other pushes/pulls the gear thus selected into mesh. What can happen is, when you pull the lever out of 5th, the centreing spring pushes the lever across to the middle 3rd/4th plane before it's come fully back into neutral; the interlocks then won't allow another gear to be engaged because they're not fully released from 5th (although the gear is out of mesh by that point). The 'cure' is to hold the lever in the 5th-gear plane (don't let it slop across to 4th early) until you've pulled it right back into the neutral position. Ditto coming out of 2nd to engage third. The real cure is to find the slack in the linkage and fix it - I haven't done that yet. If, on the other hand, your gear lever is actually hard to pull out of 5th, then it's something else, please ignore what I wrote up there.

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