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Is the RAV4 4X4 or really All wheel drive?

My 09 Limited has a 4X4 decal on it. I assumed there was a difference between 4X4 and All wheel drive. Back in the day, 4X4 had to be engaged and All wheel drive was on constantly. So, is the RAV4 4X4 or really All wheel drive?
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Oh no, not again....... It's a part time 4wd system, or part time AWD.

A true 4x4 it is not. Seriously, this has been discussed ad nauseum.

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Oh no, not again....... It's a part time 4wd system, or part time AWD.

A true 4x4 it is not. Seriously, this has been discussed ad nauseum.
Calm down, Jack. He's a newbee. Not everyone is as obsessed as you are. And this is NOT your forum!!

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It's a gray line between the terms... I call the RAV AWD, but it technically isn't even AWD/4WD except when the front wheels are slipping. I reserve '4WD' (or 4x4) for trucks that can lock in 4WD and have low range transfer cases...but that is my preference, there really isn't a clear distinction.

Then we can talk about how an open differential '4WD' vehicle is really 2WD :P

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Thanks for the replies. And, sorry if I brought up an old topic. Guess I am not getting used to Toyota becoming like the Big Three with deceptive terminology.
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This is nothing compared to some of Toyota's other nonsense.

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It's marketing. 4WD sounds tougher than AWD when it comes to an SUV, so that's why the badge on the back says "4WD". Other manufacturers besides Toyota use this little sleight of hand as well.
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Oh no, not again....... It's a part time 4wd system, or part time AWD.

A true 4x4 it is not. Seriously, this has been discussed ad nauseum.
Calm down, Jack. He's a newbee. Not everyone is as obsessed as you are. And this is NOT your forum!!

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I have no issues discussing stuff, but it is common Internet courtesy to do a forum search before asking a question. And there is no need to get noisy about my answer.... that leads to sharp retorts and eventual moderator intervention. So stow it!

Here is a good place to start looking for basic RAV4 info:
http://rav4world.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4778

This in particular tells exactly how the 4WD system works:
http://rav4world.com/pdf/2006/2006_4wdsystem.pdf

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It's marketing. 4WD sounds tougher than AWD when it comes to an SUV, so that's why the badge on the back says "4WD". Other manufacturers besides Toyota use this little sleight of hand as well.
No. 1!
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I don't have a problem with the 4WD term used by Toyota. There are no exact rules stating what 4WD, AWD, 4x4, or Quatro are supposed to mean. Some are trademarks.
4WD sounds most generic of them. True, RAV4's system should be explained as electronic, part-time, on-demand, light duty 4 wheel drive, but most people don't care.
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