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I am contemplating buying a orbit polisher such as the Gariots garage or something similar. What, if any, are the benefits of these types of machines over hand polishing. Do you think you get a better looking result useing a machine and what are the drawerbacks of useing them.
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I am contemplating buying a orbit polisher such as the Gariots garage or something similar. What, if any, are the benefits of these types of machines over hand polishing. Do you think you get a better looking result useing a machine and what are the drawerbacks of useing them.
Sorry to say this but some might rip you a new one... There are plenty of threads that discuss this issue. I imagine you want a quick answer, i am not an expert but quickly have identified you get better results more efficiently with an orbital. As to which one for your budget well thats up for debate. Surely someone can recommend that, but a google search will probably yield a quicker response. Good luck.
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Essentially a RO polisher will quickly (and safely) polish your vehicle. Yes, you can do paint correction by hand. But it will be labor intensive. The mixture of variable speeds and pad choice will allow you to use the polisher to actually correct paint problems (scratches, swirls, spider webbing) to actually laying down a nice coat of protectant (wax/sealant).

The Griot's Garage polisher is a fine machine for DIY polishing and actually quite easy to use. As far as advantages, the polisher will cut down your time in polishing. You will also use less product to accomplish the same task as hand polishing and/or waxing. Finally, you will be able to correct paint blemishes with the right pad/product.

The disadvantages are: initial cost and a learning curve (albeit small curve) in learning how to hold and use the machine. GG supplies a DVD that explains it in detail.
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I have the Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital and I have used it about 3 times so far.

Very easy to use and I get great results. I use the GG polisher first and then I apply a good carnauba wax.

I have not tried it on my black Rav yet because I have been using Zaino products but I'm sure it won't be a problem once I do.
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The difference is akin to sewing an entire suit by hand vs using a sewing machine.....no comparison.

I have a Porter Cable 7336 (oldie but goody), a Cyclo, and a Griot's machine. The Griot's is my favorite for most jobs. It has a lifetime warranty and more power than the other two.
The biggest mistake I have seen concerns pads. Folks get the wrong ones, buy a buffer kit with a poor selection, wrong size, or just not enough of the different types needed. Research is really required here. One foam pad does not do an entire car, I've used up to ten on a single vehicle. There are also relatively new microfiber pads on the market which seem quite amazing but I have no experience with them.

I suggest the Griot's machine with the optional longer cord. Other than the initial expense I know of no drawbacks. Yes, the finished product will be MUCH better than working by hand not to mention the obvious time savings.

This is the top of the heap.....it is a random orbital forced rotation machine. It is expensive and not as safe as the above mentioned ones. Learning curve is steeper also. I used one on rock hard Mercedes ceramic paint and was amazed how powerful it was, instant results. A bit of overkill for someone just starting though.

http://www.autogeek.net/flex-orbital-polisher.html

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I use the 6" Orange Foam Polish Pad from Griots

6" Orange Foam Polish Pad - Griot's Garage

and the

6" Foam Wax Applicator Pad

6" Red Foam Wax Pad - Griot's Garage

Both pads are washable.

Also I agree with Rtex the longer cord model is the best way to go!
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To the original poster.......just got this today. It is an excellent deal and the one with the HD cord is only $15 more. It's way short on pads but saving money right at the beginning allows you to buy more stuff.

VIP Special - Griots Garage 6 inch Random Orbital Polisher & Pad Combo!

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Good thread. I s*it-canned my buffer last week. It was a true-random rotation thing. Random because I couldn't tell when it was going to go nutz and throw the head. I reverted to hand work on my '58 VW Bug. Hell, the Bug didn't care and it's so small that the rub-out job was done before noon.

But thanks for the thread. I'll get a Real machine based upon experts here.

(Why the F am I even keeping a '58 Bug?)
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I run a detail shop. Short answer the Griot's garage buffer will make your life a lot easier and will work just fine for you. By hand if done right will be better than the battery or electric buffer. but your not competing in any concours d'elegance.
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