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I have had a similar complaint about our V6 from day one. I think it's made worse by the relatively soft suspension on our Limited. It always feels like the rear squats way too much on acceleration, and it's compounded by the touchy throttle. I still may switch out some suspension components for Sport model items.

bob-o, please do keep us posted on your results...

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I tried contacting the manufacturer, Venom, and several sales reps, in a futile attempt to find out if one fits my car. Nobody answered. I found the harness that looks like it will work. I am buying it this week.

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The inside unit plugs into the OBD2 port but it only gets power from there. The harness lets the user unplug the throttle and insert the device in between it and the ECU, and that is just 3 or 4 wires, so if the harness is not right I will splice the unit in. I could not find one for sale without a harness.

This vendor has a no returns policy but no vendor on ebay can really do that. Ebay buyer protection always gives refunds anyway if there is a legitimate problem with the purchase. I don't expect any. I'll let y'all know how it works out soon.

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This vendor has a no returns policy but no vendor on ebay can really do that. Ebay buyer protection always gives refunds anyway if there is a legitimate problem with the purchase.
Very true. Since eBay bought PayPal years ago all it takes is a "substantially not as listed" complaint for eBay to dip into their account and issue a refund. Sometimes you don't even need to send the item back.

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Since eBay bought PayPal years ago....
Yeah, it makes it easier for them to provide a safe harbor for the underground economy while double-dipping on their fees. Soon Ebay, Google, Apple, and Microsoft will rule the world

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They don't already???
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The i-throttle works!

the unit I decided to try with the 656-112-102/A2 harness fits my car. It works as advertised. Setup is easy.

I looked up the throttle in my car, and it says it is the same in all 2009-2012 RAV4's. This is the throttle assy. from my car, with the kit installed. I found it too difficult to disconnect the plug from the throttle connector without removing the throttle assy. from the firewall. 2 10mm bolts; that made it very easy.

I will play around with it for a few days and let you guys know what I think, but it appears to solve the problem, and then some.

Next problem please?

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I find Im getting a sore leg because I have to hold my foot in a mid-air like position .
The pedal is so light I cant put any weight on the gas without it going to the floor . Other cars I dont have a problem. There is just not enough mechanical resistance in this pedal.
I have to drive using my big toe only which is nuts .


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They use the same pedal on the 2500 and 3500 engines, and it feels like they didn't change a thing in the mapping of the throttle response, or if they did make a change they did not want to take away the off-the-line zip that some of the younger folks want. I have arthritis in my ankle so even though I have learned to take off without taking my dog off his feet, it is strain I don't need.

The i-throttle just feeds the digitized voltage from the pedal through 16 different selectable maps, and the more economic profiles soften up the lower range, making the power come on a little more slowly for the same pedal travel.

If your only issue is the pedal resistance, they only cost about $100 so you might buy an extra and take it apart to see if a stronger spring would give you what you want.

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I find this thread interesting since I am trying to figure out the initial tip in vs acceleration. Some say it's too aggressive and some say it lags. I owned a 2006 V6 with aggressive tip in that I loved. I now have a 2011 and it's more linear but not as much fun. What I have learned is that there are 2 manufactures of pedal sensor Denso and CTS. Our vehicles are either assembled in Japan, and vin starts with a J, and always gets the Denso pedal or North American assembled and starts with a number Canada and will have the CTS. For those that can I would like now from you
1. First letter of your vin
2. Pedal manufacturer you can tell by just looking at it. If you see metal plates on it's CTS if all plastic Denso. You can also look at part number ends in -42011 or 42010 Denso if 0R020 or 0R022 CTS
3. Lag or too aggressive
4. Was the recall done or "fix" and I use this term loosly.

It may be the pedal or it maybe the ecu based on where assembled or a combination of the 2 or none of the above.

Thanks for any info.
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