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IMO, this sounds like Honda is after the Highlander customers with this SUV and not really the RAV4 folks...

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igzy you might have hit the nail right on the head. As far as interior cubic feet it is only slightly larger than my 2008 models but it's hard to get the feel of a new car/cuv until you sit in one......it could be huge compared to a RAV. I think all Highlander models are three seats but I'm not sure of that.

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Honda says that the Passport is slotted between the CR-V and the Pilot, which would appear to have it compete in between the RAV4 and the Highlander. The Passport's announced 280 HP V6 and available AWD would seem to have it attract RAV4 customers and have CR-V customers look upmarket. Honda's official website so far does not provide pricing and specs for different projected trim levels. Honda produced a Passport years ago but say that the new vehicle has no relationship with the previous one.

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More info on the Honda Passport

Honda reveals all-new 2019 Passport SUV | The Car Magazine
Seems like 10" longer and 4" wider than the new RAV4?

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Honda reveals all-new 2019 Passport SUV | The Car Magazine
Seems like 10" longer and 4" wider than the new RAV4?
Note the title of the article, the Passport is midsize class, comparable to the Highlander, the Rav4 is in the compact class.

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I will have a look when Passports find their ways onto dealer lots especially since I have liked Honda seats and the Passport has a V6. However the reported fuel mileage specs are less than those for the V6 RAVs. And a preliminary look on the Honda web site and car mag. pics shows an instrument panel which I would not like - "digital" speedo readout (no speedo "gauge") and it appears that the tach radiates across the entire top of the instrument panel when with auto gearboxes and rev limiters tachs have become almost superfluous. Also some reviewers have said that the gear selector is no longer the traditional lever and seems confusing, with questionable console space - saving benefits.

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Also some reviewers have said that the gear selector is no longer the traditional lever and seems confusing.

Hello Jim,

I know, it's not you, as you said, it's some reviewers who talked the lack of a traditional shift lever being "confusing", well, check this out:

The Passport has eliminated the need to grab a lever, push the release button and move the lever back and forth to where you want it to be. Instead there are four buttons, labeled: "P" (Park) "R" (Reverse) "N" (Neutral) & (D/S (Drive).

There is no more lever to bump into and the "R" (Reverse) is recessed in such a way that you would not engage it by accident.

Sound confusing? Here have a LOOK:

LINK: https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...=15&ajaxhist=0
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2019 Passport MPG

2019 Honda Passport info: 19 MPG city, 24 MPG highway, 21 MPG combined. This is for the AWD Elite shown here:

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Comparing the combined Gas Mileages:

2019 AWD RAV4 = 28mpg
2019 AWD Passport = 21mpg

If someone drives 5,000 per year, the gallons of gas consumed would be:
2019 AWD RAV4 = 178 gallons
2019 AWD Passport = 238 gallons

Meaning the Passport uses 60 more gallons (Per 5,000 miles driven)
If you divide the 60 gallons by 12 months = 5 gallons (more per month)
5 gallons of gas @ $4 per gallon = $20 (per month or $240 per year)

NOTE: If gas costs less than $4/gal then the extra cost is further reduced.

SUMMARY: The Passport will cost someone $20/month MORE to drive than the Passport PER 5,000 miles driven - if someone drives 10,000 miles a year, then it goes up to $40/month.

CONCLUSION: Buying a comparably equipped Passport will probably cost $4,000 - $6,000, MORE than a RAV4, but if one needs the extra power (280hp vs 203hp) or size (Mid-Size vs Compact) or wants Leather (vs Softex) then they may be ok with the increased fuel costs.
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