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Toyota hopes to sell more stick shifts

Toyota Hopes To Sell More Stick Shifts With The 2019 Corolla Hatchback

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They’re cheaper, more fun, and fading fast.

Demand for stick shifts has waned with the advent of the automatic transmission and the more modern appetite for semi-autonomous vehicles, but some car companies continue to cater to the resistance. That’s why Toyota is touting a retooled six-speed manual transmission for one of its sportiest models: the 2019 Corolla hatchback.

Even as IHS Markit forecasts manuals to comprise less than 4% of new vehicle sales in the U.S. this year, half a dozen models in Toyota’s lineup still offer a stick shift as an option. The Corolla hatchback, due in dealerships later this year, debuts what Toyota calls an Intelligent Manual Transmission, which adjusts engine rotations automatically for smoother shifting between gears.

Stick shifts comprised about 5% of sales for the Corolla hatchback’s previous generation, called the Corolla iM. But Toyota executives said they’re aiming for manual transmissions to make up between 15% and 20% of the sales mix to remain competitive with rivals. Stick shifts generally cost less than cars with automatic transmissions and remain in demand abroad.

“Keeping the manual transmission for the Corolla enables a lower price point option,” said Stephanie Brinley, principal analyst at IHS Markit. “Ultimately, I think it's more about price than offering a sporty image, though it can assist there as well.”

Sitting lower, longer, and wider than the outgoing model, the Corolla hatchback runs on a 168 horsepower, 2.0-liter engine paired with a standard continuously variable transmission with paddle shifters. In a bid to prove that manual transmissions can coexist with modern amenities, Toyota has included dashboard technology more commonly found in cars twice its price. Those features include Apple CarPlay, Amazon Alex connectivity, and Toyota’s Entune 3.0 infotainment system.
Said Adam Lovelady, a member of the Corolla’s Product Sales and Engagement team, “We’re here to keep the manuals alive.”

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I prefer a manual gearbox, but the engineers usually throw a wrench into the works by their final gearings - auto trans models generally are final geared for lower rpms than are manual models of the same make and level, and one result is that auto trans models generally achieve somewhat better fuel mileage, especially in highway driving. Also the higher highway rpms for manual models can increase cabin noise, and there is that Yikes! phenomenon when looking at the tach.

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Manuals are great.... until you try to sell your car. This was my experience last year when trying to sell my '09 Pontiac Vibe. Bought the manual since it was over a grand cheaper than the auto and was a 5-speed vs the vintage 4-speed auto that was available. I couldn't sell the car though, even though it was in mint shape. Even the trade in value sucked. For me, if I get another manual it will need to be on a car I intend to keep.
Certainly for any car you want to have fun with you need a stick shift. There is just something about having full control that even a shift-able automatic can't match. Plus they are pretty robust and reliable.
Speaking of highway RPM, on older 4-bangers I would say there was an issue. My old escort GT would spin at 4000rpm at 75 mph. The Vibe was 3200 rpm at the same speed but my mustang GT was a low 1800rpm at 75 mph until I put the shorter 3.55 gears in. It runs about 2300rpm now.

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It depends on the vehicle. I had a 2002 BMW 330xi 5 speed stick in steel gray with sport package and cold weather package. 1 3/4 years ago the dealer was going to give me only $1000 as a trade in LOL. I sold it for $7800. It was a rare find in the BMW E46 world. Haven't found another like it since.

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Manuals are great.... until you try to sell your car. This was my experience last year when trying to sell my '09 Pontiac Vibe. Bought the manual since it was over a grand cheaper than the auto and was a 5-speed vs the vintage 4-speed auto that was available. I couldn't sell the car though, even though it was in mint shape. Even the trade in value sucked.
I think as the number of manual cars for sale decreases, the demand for cheap stick shift cars sold privately will increase for kids and parents looking to teach kids manual.

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We recently sold our stick-shift 2004 Corolla with 196k miles on it to the first guy who looked at it. He wanted it as a first car for his teenage son. It's good to know how to drive a stick, and it might keep his friends from trying to borrow it. By the way, we replaced it with a stick-shift 2013 Corolla.
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It depends on the vehicle. I had a 2002 BMW 330xi 5 speed stick in steel gray with sport package and cold weather package. 1 3/4 years ago the dealer was going to give me only $1000 as a trade in LOL. I sold it for $7800.
And if it was an automatic they'd have given you $1500. That's what dealers do. When you cut thru their tactics to the actual price they're giving you you realize one thing - you get screwed on any trade in. IMO, they make more on trades than new cars. Probably would've sold your BMW for $9-10K.
I recently bought a 2012 Tundra for my BIL (who's now back in AK with it) for $17K. The seller said the dealer offered him 15K and was going to sell it for 20K.

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