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Question Buyers remorse or regret on buying 2019 Rav4

I know this topic has been discussed before but after about 6 months of the 2019 Rav4 being on the market what's your take on this question as of today ? Would you have waited till the 2020 models (most likely all the little bugs will be ironed out) ? Or, would you have bought something else ? I plan on buying next week ! Thanks for your input.
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None yet. I've only had it a couple months and because I have a work vehicle only have about 600 miles on it. A lot of people complain about the engine noise but I sort of like it. It seems to go away once you are up to speed anyhow.

I enjoy driving it way more than I did my 2018 Tacoma.

I don't have much issue with buying a first year model. That's what dealerships, warrantys and recalls are for. If enough people have an issue they'll come up with a fix.
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I can live with the noise and as a matter of fact I do like the extra noise maybe it's because I am use to riding bikes.

Good points you are bring in respect to the first year model.

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None yet. I've only had it a couple months and because I have a work vehicle only have about 600 miles on it. A lot of people complain about the engine noise but I sort of like it. It seems to go away once you are up to speed anyhow.

I enjoy driving it way more than I did my 2018 Tacoma.

I don't have much issue with buying a first year model. That's what dealerships, warrantys and recalls are for. If enough people have an issue they'll come up with a fix.
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I love mine after almost a month. As a point of comparison, my wife just got a 2019 CRV. It’s a great vehicle and I could be happy driving it daily. But I like my RAV better!

Before buying I test drove nearly all the competition. There are a lot of good choices so I think it boils down to personal taste.

This is my fourth first year vehicle so I guess it doesn’t bother me. Only had issues with one (2004 Sienna) that were fixed quickly under warranty. That’s when I learned modern vehicles have cant sensors.
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You've probably seen my buyer beware post. If not, you can look it up and also check out the pinned "issues" thread.

I have very mixed feelings on this. I liked the new design enough to trade in a 3 month old 2018 Rav4 on it - it's kind of a long story, and probably not the most financially wise move, but I figured in the long run I'd be happy with the new vehicle. I'm hoping for a good 15 plus year run out of this and I would be very happy except for the fact that my vehicle has shifting issues and has the same shift shock with coasting and reaccelerating as the TSB T-SB-0330-17 for the 2018 Camry indicates and instead of the shift shock from park to reverse, I have shift shock when coming to a complete stop when the vehicle hasn't warmed up yet (takes around 15 minutes of drive time). I've also had some other problems that you can read about in the other threads.

I'd be fine if Toyota was willing to acknowledge the problem (particularly the transmission issues) and be willing to fix it. Instead, they've declared that nothing is wrong with my vehicle which is a complete and utter lie. The specialist that they sent out to the dealer to check my vehicle said that he's sorry I'm having the issues with the vehicle and proceeded to try and give the most absurd reasons as to why I should be satisfied with it - and that's after he tried telling me that I should never really experience situations in real world driving that would cause the coast, go and jerk issue to rear it's ugly head. Total bull poop - all of it.

So in spite of what they said about learning their lesson from getting fined 1.2 billion dollars for covering up defects related to the unexpected vehicle acceleration issues that started showing up in late 2009, they apparently haven't. Their modus operandi is still to deny, deflect, and lie and expect their customers to be okay with that. It makes me quite angry to be honest. My case manager has submitted paperwork requesting a buyback from Toyota and that will take around 45 days to get an answer on it. Not sure why they're even bothering given that they claim my vehicle is fine, but we'll see. If they do take it back, I'll be disappointed and a bit sad, but I'll also be glad to walk away from a vehicle that's likely to experience reduced service life due to excessive wear and tear in the transmission and drive train AND to get away from a dishonest manufacturer (are there any honest ones left with any integrity?). I would like to see them just OWN their problems and just fix the vehicles already...

You need to figure out if you're gonna be okay if you end up getting a vehicle that has any of the problems I and others have experienced, knowing that at this point Toyota is denying a problem. If things don't work out in your favor, you may NEVER get a fix. If you get a vehicle without the transmission issues, you're likely to be pretty happy, none of this will really matter beyond the principle of the matter, if that. I took the gamble on the first model year thinking that Toyota would step up to the plate and be honest about any issues and work to fix them, but up to this point, I've been wrong.

If there was a vehicle that I thought was better that had a more honest manufacturer, I would point you in that direction immediately, but I'm not sure of any. I'm thinking most, if not all manufacturers would probably behave similarly - deny a problem until they can't.

If I had it to do all over again, I would have just bought a FWD 2018 Rav4 last year and been done with it. Beyond that I would have waited for the 2020 or gone with another manufacturer - not Honda w/ their turbocharged DGI engine problems though.

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2500 miles in and very happy. Avg over 33 mpg so far, and have been very comfortable driving the vehicle. I tend to get back stiffness but haven't been experiencing it so far in the new Rav(fingers crossed!) I didn't like the standard factory fogs but changed them out easily enough. My only regret is not getting the upgraded Entune system. My hope is an inexpensive upgrade will eventually become available(I know there's probably no chance but one can dream!!) Almost forgot...not a fan of the horn but bought the ones Quick had recommended and hope to install this weekend. I've also gotten quite a few complements on the vehicle. Bottom line...no real buyer's remorse.

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Yes I did read your previous post. I am sorry that you are enduring these issues with the tanny. What trim do you have, LE, XLE, Trail/Adventure, 2WD AWD ? Thanks for your pointers and again sorry to hear about your issues. Also, just curious what color is your Rav4 ???



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You've probably seen my buyer beware post. If not, you can look it up and also check out the pinned "issues" thread.

I have very mixed feelings on this. I liked the new design enough to trade in a 3 month old 2018 Rav4 on it - it's kind of a long story, and probably not the most financially wise move, but I figured in the long run I'd be happy with the new vehicle. I'm hoping for a good 15 plus year run out of this and I would be very happy except for the fact that my vehicle has shifting issues and has the same shift shock with coasting and reaccelerating as the TSB T-SB-0330-17 for the 2018 Camry indicates and instead of the shift shock from park to reverse, I have shift shock when coming to a complete stop when the vehicle hasn't warmed up yet (takes around 15 minutes of drive time). I've also had some other problems that you can read about in the other threads.

I'd be fine if Toyota was willing to acknowledge the problem (particularly the transmission issues) and be willing to fix it. Instead, they've declared that nothing is wrong with my vehicle which is a complete and utter lie. The specialist that they sent out to the dealer to check my vehicle said that he's sorry I'm having the issues with the vehicle and proceeded to try and give the most absurd reasons as to why I should be satisfied with it - and that's after he tried telling me that I should never really experience situations in real world driving that would cause the coast, go and jerk issue to rear it's ugly head. Total bull poop - all of it.

So in spite of what they said about learning their lesson from getting fined 1.2 billion dollars for covering up defects related to the unexpected vehicle acceleration issues that started showing up in late 2009, they apparently haven't. Their modus operandi is still to deny, deflect, and lie and expect their customers to be okay with that. It makes me quite angry to be honest. My case manager has submitted paperwork requesting a buyback from Toyota and that will take around 45 days to get an answer on it. Not sure why they're even bothering given that they claim my vehicle is fine, but we'll see. If they do take it back, I'll be disappointed and a bit sad, but I'll also be glad to walk away from a vehicle that's likely to experience reduced service life due to excessive wear and tear in the transmission and drive train AND to get away from a dishonest manufacturer (are there any honest ones left with any integrity?). I would like to see them just OWN their problems and just fix the vehicles already...

You need to figure out if you're gonna be okay if you end up getting a vehicle that has any of the problems I and others have experienced, knowing that at this point Toyota is denying a problem. If things don't work out in your favor, you may NEVER get a fix. If you get a vehicle without the transmission issues, you're likely to be pretty happy, none of this will really matter beyond the principle of the matter, if that. I took the gamble on the first model year thinking that Toyota would step up to the plate and be honest about any issues and work to fix them, but up to this point, I've been wrong.

If there was a vehicle that I thought was better that had a more honest manufacturer, I would point you in that direction immediately, but I'm not sure of any. I'm thinking most, if not all manufacturers would probably behave similarly - deny a problem until they can't.

If I had it to do all over again, I would have just bought a FWD 2018 Rav4 last year and been done with it. Beyond that I would have waited for the 2020 or gone with another manufacturer - not Honda w/ their turbocharged DGI engine problems though.
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Yes I did read your previous post. I am sorry that you are enduring these issues with the tanny. What trim do you have, LE, XLE, Trail/Adventure, 2WD AWD ? Thanks for your pointers and again sorry to hear about your issues. Also, just curious what color is your Rav4 ???
Thanks. You're just gonna have to make up your mind - there are only so many ways you can try and ask the same question. I don't think it would be a bad idea to just wait for the 2020 models if you can.

Mine is an LE AWD, Japanese built, manufactured early to mid December 2018. Magnetic Grey. Love it except for the issues. Oh, I think the new steel wheel and plastic wheel cover design is stupid. The design from the previous gen looked so much better - I see no reason it really needed to change as it just looks cheesy. If I end up keeping it, I'll have to do something different for the wheels.
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I just purchased a new Trail and also have a 2016 Lexus NX200T F-Sport 2. Although, there is a night and day difference between the 2 vehicles and it's not fair to compare, I do have the following gripes with the Trail.

1) Scout GPS, really..... What a POS, should have had embedded NAV.
2) Sound in the cab could be improved.
3) The accessories are not ready, ie the hitch wiring harness.

That's all for now as I only have a few hundred km's on it.......
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Well i just got mine on Friday. Ruby Flare LE FWD. i made the deal with an aftermarket set of wheels though as wtf is the deal with hubcaps. Like come on! Sadly they didn’t come in in time and I live out of town from where i bought. Gonna get them on when i head back up next month. But so far loving the mpg as that’s why i got it. I had a full size truck i loved but it was killing me in mpg. I will be averaging at least 20k miles a year for the next 1-2 years at least. I mean I don’t need AWD but that would be the only thing I’d redo if i had to say anything. I mean i want fogs but will get them eventually once I can get the part number for the plastic housing in the bumper meant for the fogs.
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