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Test Drove a 2019 RAV4 Hybrid

Last night I had the opportunity to take a new Hybrid Limited for a test drive. It was equipped with LED Projector headlights, however they weren't the optional adaptive self leveling (HL) headlights which are a $415 option in the US. The LED Projector lights provided a better, more even pattern than the standard 3 bulb LED reflector lens headlights on the gasoline RAV-4 that I drove. The automatic high beam function operated perfectly.

There was sound insulation under the hood and around both front wheel wells. The ride was quiet and more responsive than the gasoline only RAV-4 that I test drove. I'm 6'1" and the driving position was comfortable, rear seat room was adequate for me with the front seat as far back as it would go.

I was very impressed with the Hybrid overall and am anxiously awaiting my factory order, which has a projected build date of May 3rd.

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hybrid Limited model sounds promising

Thanks hcfd1075 for your feedback on test drive of the hybrid Limited model. I am looking to purchase possibly this exact vehicle (or an XSE). I especially am optimistic about the extra sound-proofing in the hybrid and the result that it is quieter than the gas model and more responsive. When did you order your vehicle to get the May 3rd build date? Also, assuming you ordered the Limited trim, since you “custom-ordered” your car could you have gotten it in the lunar rock color (which doesnt appear to be available as per the configurator on toyota.com)?
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Thanks hcfd1075 for your feedback on test drive of the hybrid Limited model. I am looking to purchase possibly this exact vehicle (or an XSE). I especially am optimistic about the extra sound-proofing in the hybrid and the result that it is quieter than the gas model and more responsive. When did you order your vehicle to get the May 3rd build date? Also, assuming you ordered the Limited trim, since you “custom-ordered” your car could you have gotten it in the lunar rock color (which doesnt appear to be available as per the configurator on toyota.com)?
The dealer placed my order on or about March 23, 2019. I don't know about the current status of the lunar rock color as I didn't inquire specifically about that color. I would suggest calling a Toyota dealer and asking them if that color option is available on their configuration system.

Any doubts that I had about my decision to buy a hybrid before the test drive have disappeared, I'm looking forward to it. The only concern remaining is purchasing the first production run of a new vehicle, but I think that with their reputation at stake on the best selling vehicle in their lineup, Toyota is motivated to get it right.
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Hcfd1075, you didnt mention here whether you had settled on a price with the dealer for your vehicle, or plan to negotiate that when it arrives? My assumptions regarding purchasing a car (and having never ordered one as such), is buying from existing inventory would get the largest discount. But nowdays, with the various buying services (I have one with both USAA and Costco) available, perhaps you could in advance agree on the price at the time of the order to remove that issue which might be a showstopper if the dealer was expecting MSRP, for example.
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Hcfd1075, you didnt mention here whether you had settled on a price with the dealer for your vehicle, or plan to negotiate that when it arrives? My assumptions regarding purchasing a car (and having never ordered one as such), is buying from existing inventory would get the largest discount. But nowdays, with the various buying services (I have one with both USAA and Costco) available, perhaps you could in advance agree on the price at the time of the order to remove that issue which might be a showstopper if the dealer was expecting MSRP, for example.
I ordered a Limited with every option except the panoramic moonroof, MSRP was $40,225. I got a price from the dealer of $37,399 excluding state tax and tags. I probably could have done better waiting 6-9 months but I'm particular about the color and options that I want and usually keep my vehicles a minimum of 10 years, usually more.

I have an '04 Tacoma with 230,000 miles on it, still running strong and doesn't use a drop of oil.
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I ordered a Limited with every option except the panoramic moonroof, MSRP was $40,225. I got a price from the dealer of $37,399 excluding state tax and tags. I probably could have done better waiting 6-9 months but I'm particular about the color and options that I want and usually keep my vehicles a minimum of 10 years, usually more.

I have an '04 Tacoma with 230,000 miles on it, still running strong and doesn't use a drop of oil.

How much did Tacoma upkeep cost you over 14 years?

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Hcfd1075, that seems like a pretty decent discount off MSRP for a car as new (and in limited quantities) as the 2019 rav4 hybrid...how did you come up with the price/discount (e.g. did you use a buying svc like Costco/USAA or other?) ? There are so many ways to negotiate and purchase a car these days, and most of us only buy every 5-10 years, so any tips you can provide for a good buying strategy in todays market would be very useful.
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How much did Tacoma upkeep cost you over 14 years?
That's a good question, it's coming due for another timing belt replacement with the associated preemptive water pump replacement, I just had the right rear upper shock mount break off which was $275 including new shocks, I've had to replace a couple of engine ignition parts, but mostly it's been routine maintenance items, oil/filter changes, transfer case/differential fluid replacement, tire replacement etc.

I guess if I had to sum it up, no major unexpected failures or repairs to the motor, transmission or drive train. Sorry, but I can't substantiate all of that with a dollar figure without digging through a ton of records.
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Hcfd1075, that seems like a pretty decent discount off MSRP for a car as new (and in limited quantities) as the 2019 rav4 hybrid...how did you come up with the price/discount (e.g. did you use a buying svc like Costco/USAA or other?) ? There are so many ways to negotiate and purchase a car these days, and most of us only buy every 5-10 years, so any tips you can provide for a good buying strategy in todays market would be very useful.

My only strategy was to contact multiple dealers. This was the second offer that I got at a dealership which I visited in person. The salesperson was extremely knowledgeable about the 2019 hybrid RAV 4. I did get an offer for $150 less from another dealership that I called, but their allotment wouldn't have allowed them to place the order with the factory until April 1st, and they didn't make this offer until I told them about the offer that I eventually accepted. For that price difference, I wanted to go with the salesperson who was knowledgeable and straightforward with me. I respect that kind of business relationship.

Some of the dealerships that I contacted didn't have sufficient allotments to give me a firm answer on when the order for my RAV could be placed with the factory. And I didn't even bother discussing a serious offer that had one on the lot with a separate dealer added window sticker with a $650 pinstripe and nitrogen in the tires package. I have a zero tolerance for that kind of establishment.

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