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All good and valid points.
I think I have only kept it as long as I have because of the V6 and low miles. I have this mythical mileage barrier of 100,000 miles when things start to break; water pumps, starters, trannys.
Keep your V6 and just buy a new 4.5 if you like it. For me my 4.4 does everything I need it to. I don't tow with it and if I did in the future it would only be a small utility trailer. It's comfortable, looks good and drives great. The 4.5 from a look only viewpoint is a serious step backward. It's trying to be something it's not. The RAV4 sells great because it does most of what most people want. If people want more power, towing or ground clearance there are many other Toyota models that can do that. For RAV4 owners 99% of them never even leave the pavement. Actually that's true for most all SUV's!

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I had a 2010 v6 sport and loved it. I now have a 2016 xle and prefer it over the 2010 in every way. I do like the looks of the 2019 and will drive them once they come out. I probably won't buy a 19 as I'm sure some bugs will need to be worked out, but a 2020 is a real possibility.
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If people want more power, towing or ground clearance there are many other Toyota models that can do that.
Ah, but here's the kicker: Not in the size or price range for which you used to be able to buy a RAV4 V6.

At the time I bought my RAV4 V6, a comparably equipped Highlander cost almost $10,000.00 more.

Plus the RAV4 being smaller is nimble and very easy to park, especially in the relatively small garage of my older house. I'd bet you'll agree they are a great size and have excellent cargo capacity.

The RAV4 V6 is an awesome combination of price, power (including for towing), utility and size. A "Goldilocks" vehicle, if you will.

I bought the RAV4 V6 for all the things that made it unique from the direct competition at the time. The 4.4 came out and was almost exactly a clone of the Honda CR-V. I'm not saying the 4.4 isn't what more people want (it is), it's just missing what *I* want.

Toyota effectively said "screw you" to those of us that bought it because of what made it unique.

But more kudos to Toyota for using an 8-speed transmission in the 4.5 and not continuing to clone the CR-V and go with a smaller turbo engine and CVT as the only transmission option. Hallelujah!

Though I can't imagine what they were thinking on the 4.5 with that raked back rear window (like the RX-350 has) because they're sacrificing cargo space.

Seriously, Toyota?!?!?

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I am also intrigued by the 2019, it looks pretty good and I'm sure I would enjoy some of the new features. However, my 2006 V6 4wd is a great car and vastly underrated and underappreciated by many car people. (269hp at 'only' 3500lbs, underrated amount of usable cargo space, small and easy to maneuver compared to other SUVs, super reliable, cheap to maintain, and I average 22-24 mpg in mixed driving and 28mpg on a road trip... not a bad package for a car that was $26k brand new and now has a KBB value under $7k). I bought my wife a new 2013 Highlander Limited to replace the 2006 Rav4 then decided to keep it as my daily so I could keep my fun car, it was a great decision, and I prefer the 2006 RAV4 V6 Sport over the 2013 Highlander Limited. Don't be scared of crossing 100k miles, I'm at 163k-ish and with virtually zero issues. If the 2019 had a V6 I'd be really tempted to upgrade, but if it feels and drives like the 4.4, I'll pass. (Not bashing the 4.4, I just need the power of the V6).


Once they are out, I will drive one and decide, but my guess is that I will want to keep my V6.
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sooperedd - curious, what year of 4Runner, do you have ?

If I wanted a new RAV4, I'd get the Gen5 Hybrid in a heart beat.

Wife has a 2008 RAV4 Limited v6 AWD, currently with 102,xxx miles (equals 164,xxx Km)
- taking it to 200K miles, should be fairly easy...vs new SUV, monthly payments
- owned for 3 years, the overall spunk & fun drive plus incredible winter traction...is a treat

Been driving 45 years, our son has a 2015 Lexus RX350 with backup camera.
- I refuse to use the distraction / I trust my mirrors & shoulder checks

My daily driver is a mint 2000 4Runner SR5 4x4 with. 86,xxx miles currently.

If I sold our v6 RAV4 - I would like a Hybrid, as a family vehicle...but I won't buy new, as we have a 13% sales tax (HST).
- regular gas yesterday, was $1.289/Liter (heavily taxed in Canada)
^^ Without battery power, I'm not a 4 cyl. fan.
- our family RAV4, gets driven 33,xxx Km/year
^^ When we replace our v6 RAV (in years to come)...it will likely be a v6 Highlander or sons used Lexus.
- only a $90 rear axle stabilizer link to replace & a rattling aluminum heat shield (over muffler) to fix.

Family driving aside, for my DD'er - I looking for a 2003 Z71 Silverado, for a truck / like a 2008-09 4Runner, for an SUV.
- but I only put on 4,500 Km a year (on Gen3 T4R) & 2,000 Km on a '98 Silverado...being retired
The 4Runner is a 2015 and it has been bullet-proof; not a single problem...as I expected. The 4Runner has its tho, mushy brakes, nose plow, low HP, kind of noisy, lack of technology.

If the V6 goes 200,000 miles I will be driving mine until like 2038 or something like that

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Keep your V6 and just buy a new 4.5 if you like it. For me my 4.4 does everything I need it to. I don't tow with it and if I did in the future it would only be a small utility trailer. It's comfortable, looks good and drives great. The 4.5 from a look only viewpoint is a serious step backward. It's trying to be something it's not. The RAV4 sells great because it does most of what most people want. If people want more power, towing or ground clearance there are many other Toyota models that can do that. For RAV4 owners 99% of them never even leave the pavement. Actually that's true for most all SUV's!
I had that thought today, why not have BOTH.

When I bought the RAV4 back in 2006 I told myself I am going to have this until the wheels fall off......funny how our desires change.

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I had a 2010 v6 sport and loved it. I now have a 2016 xle and prefer it over the 2010 in every way. I do like the looks of the 2019 and will drive them once they come out. I probably won't buy a 19 as I'm sure some bugs will need to be worked out, but a 2020 is a real possibility.
Agreed. Bought the 4Runner over the new Tacoma for just this reason and I understand there has been some problems with it.
I bought the RAV4 in it's first model year thinking "it's a Toyota, it will be just fine".
Well that wasn't true.

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Ah, but here's the kicker: Not in the size or price range for which you used to be able to buy a RAV4 V6.

At the time I bought my RAV4 V6, a comparably equipped Highlander cost almost $10,000.00 more.

Plus the RAV4 being smaller is nimble and very easy to park, especially in the relatively small garage of my older house. I'd bet you'll agree they are a great size and have excellent cargo capacity.

The RAV4 V6 is an awesome combination of price, power (including for towing), utility and size. A "Goldilocks" vehicle, if you will.

I bought the RAV4 V6 for all the things that made it unique from the direct competition at the time. The 4.4 came out and was almost exactly a clone of the Honda CR-V. I'm not saying the 4.4 isn't what more people want (it is), it's just missing what *I* want.

Toyota effectively said "screw you" to those of us that bought it because of what made it unique.

But more kudos to Toyota for using an 8-speed transmission in the 4.5 and not continuing to clone the CR-V and go with a smaller turbo engine and CVT as the only transmission option. Hallelujah!

Though I can't imagine what they were thinking on the 4.5 with that raked back rear window (like the RX-350 has) because they're sacrificing cargo space.

Seriously, Toyota?!?!?

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I have a suspicion the 2019 RAV4 Limited will push $35,000, for sure the Hybrid.

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I am also intrigued by the 2019, it looks pretty good and I'm sure I would enjoy some of the new features. However, my 2006 V6 4wd is a great car and vastly underrated and underappreciated by many car people. (269hp at 'only' 3500lbs, underrated amount of usable cargo space, small and easy to maneuver compared to other SUVs, super reliable, cheap to maintain, and I average 22-24 mpg in mixed driving and 28mpg on a road trip... not a bad package for a car that was $26k brand new and now has a KBB value under $7k). I bought my wife a new 2013 Highlander Limited to replace the 2006 Rav4 then decided to keep it as my daily so I could keep my fun car, it was a great decision, and I prefer the 2006 RAV4 V6 Sport over the 2013 Highlander Limited. Don't be scared of crossing 100k miles, I'm at 163k-ish and with virtually zero issues. If the 2019 had a V6 I'd be really tempted to upgrade, but if it feels and drives like the 4.4, I'll pass. (Not bashing the 4.4, I just need the power of the V6).


Once they are out, I will drive one and decide, but my guess is that I will want to keep my V6.
It really does everything we need it to do; tow, haul, good MPGs, quick, drive in snow.

Yes, I think if the 2019 had a V6 it would be an easy upgrade.

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Ah, but here's the kicker: Not in the size or price range for which you used to be able to buy a RAV4 V6.

At the time I bought my RAV4 V6, a comparably equipped Highlander cost almost $10,000.00 more.

Plus the RAV4 being smaller is nimble and very easy to park, especially in the relatively small garage of my older house. I'd bet you'll agree they are a great size and have excellent cargo capacity.

The RAV4 V6 is an awesome combination of price, power (including for towing), utility and size. A "Goldilocks" vehicle, if you will.

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Toyota effectively said "screw you" to those of us that bought it because of what made it unique.

But more kudos to Toyota for using an 8-speed transmission in the 4.5 and not continuing to clone the CR-V and go with a smaller turbo engine and CVT as the only transmission option. Hallelujah!

Though I can't imagine what they were thinking on the 4.5 with that raked back rear window (like the RX-350 has) because they're sacrificing cargo space.

Seriously, Toyota?!?!?

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Hence the reason I said to keep the V6 and buy a new one! And Toyota isn't doing this to you, it's a change due to the mandated mileage figures that all manufacturers have to meet.

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