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I´m running 235/70-16 BFG ATs on 16x8 ET25 wheels (summer) and 225/75-16 on 16x7 ET40 wheels (winter). Have removed the "bump" and used a heat gun and a round wooden stick to shape the plastic liners. No rubbing. In a few days I´ll install the OME lift kit and try to see if 245/70s will fit :D
 
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I´m running 235/70-16 BFG ATs on 16x8 ET25 wheels (summer) and 225/75-16 on 16x7 ET40 wheels (winter). Have removed the "bump" and used a heat gun and a round wooden stick to shape the plastic liners. No rubbing. In a few days I´ll install the OME lift kit and try to see if 245/70s will fit :D
Wow, you had no issues other than a little rubbing on the plastic with 235/70-16 BFG ATs a 29" tire where many have reported at least minor problems with 225-70-16 a 28.4" tire. Of course tired old springs may be a large part of the problem. Is your RAV4 a 2 or a 4 door? I think the lighter 2 door RAV's sit a little higher because they are a bit lighter.

Thanks for letting us know about your tire experience.
 
I've already fitted P245-70R-16's on my 2000 RAV4 AWD with no issues. I'm waiting for Cooper to introduce this size in a Discoverer MT profile, about 27-28" in diameter, just an awesome tire for off-road and mud & snow. But my rav has the 2.5" factory lift installed, so.....your results may vary.
 
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Yes, with the appropriate backspacing. The style tire I wanted to run was not available for a 16 inch wheel. So, I went with a 15 inch wheel by trial & error method until I found the correct backspacing that would give me clearance over(away) from the caliper.


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That tire is 30.59" tall, it just won't fit, my tires at 29.9 inches required me to modify the firewall, I know that I couldn't squeeze roughly .7" more into the RAV4. Shame, those are nice tires.
 
Anyone ever try fitting the Cooper discoverer stt pro size
LT215/85R16?


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Not that particular tire, but my factory 2.5" lifted 2k rav4 has p235-70r-14's on it with no rubbing anywhere. So my guess would be that a stock lift rav4 should be able to fit the 215-85's easily. I wasn't aware that Cooper made a Discoverer that small, but cool to know.
 
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Not that particular tire, but my factory 2.5" lifted 2k rav4 has p235-70r-14's on it with no rubbing anywhere. So my guess would be that a stock lift rav4 should be able to fit the 215-85's easily. I wasn't aware that Cooper made a Discoverer that small, but cool to know.
I assume you meant p235-70r-16 which is a 29" tire give or take depending on brand and tire model, the Coopers are 30.59" tall, which just isn't going to work without major mods. I have an OME lift, 25mm wheel spacer, and a 30mm" strut spacer on the front which gives me just about 2.125" of lift to install Firestone Destination A/T 235-75-16 tires at 29.9". I have plenty of vertical clearance but at the inside rear of the wheel well it rubs harshly. And, that's after removing the "bump" and using a 5 lb implement of destruction (sledge hammer) and I still couldn't get the clearance needed. Toward the end of this week I'm cutting out and patching the firewall to gain 1.5" of clearance. I just don't see any way to get enough room to put 215-85-16 tires on her.

If you really want to try, get one mounted and try it out. Let us know what your results are.
 
Hello all

I would like to go back to the size of tires and rims. Since last week I have a completely new suspension with 40mm lift maybe even a bit more because in addition to the 40mm spring spacers I have:
- front new Kayaba springs + new Monroe Adventure 4x4 shock absorbers
- rear new Kayaba springs + new Trail Master Stage II shock absorbers

Apart from a larger clearance the car has completely different driving characteristics - much tougher, stiffer. It's no longer a "wheelbarrow" with tired springs. No dive when braking and so on…

The next step will be the rims and tires. I want to go to:
R16 235/70 or 225//75 or evev 235/75 but I do not intend to modify the firewall.
At this moment I have stock rims J6,5 with ET45 (offset). I need J7 and I found cool rims with ET18. Calculating from the formula:

((width of new rim*25/2)-ETnew rim)- ((width of stock rim*25/2)-ETstock rim))

new rim will go out 33,25mm more.

I'm afraid it is not too much?

I am going to buy Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 tires.
Below are some photos before and after
Thanks in advance for any tips
 

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Andrew N, the 235-70-16 and 225-75-16 tires will fit with your lift but unless you are over the limit on lift I doubt the 235-75-16 tires will work without modding the firewall. You have a max lift that you can do because of the CV joints which will overextend and not work properly, brake lines may have to changed to longer ones, and I have no idea about the rear axles. Besides clearance issues, the other issue as I have found out is that the 3S-FE engine just doesn't have the torque for 235-75-16 tires, I would highly recommend nothing much over 29 inches. I plan on going down to a 29" or less tire after I run these 235-75-16 tires I have a little longer. Maybe the 2 door sits a little higher because she is a lighter vehicle, I don't know.
 
OK, I finished my modifications. I mentioned the changes above (spring spacers , new springs, new shock absorbers). Additionally, I also replaced the plastic wheel arches. I decided on rims 16x7JJ with ET45 and Yokohama Geolandar A/T G015 235/70R16 tires. 6" and 6.5" rims are too narrow for 235mm tires. Despite the lift, the tires rubbed slightly but not on full lock. I had to use a heat gun and now is ok. Pls see pictures. I hope that it may be useful to someone.

Thanks to this I got the height from the ground:
- front 86,5cm
- rear 89cm
Unfortunately I did not measure before replacing the suspension and tires.

I also checked the 225/75 tires and I state that 235/70 is the most optimal

Regards
Andrew
 

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Great look and great work. Thank you for sharing that information.
 
I got 225/75 R16's on my 96' 4 door AWD sport/utility without modifications and I only have rubbing when locking all the way to the left. I suspect part of that is due to an alignment that needs to be done, but beyond that there are no problems on them. Been using Goodyear Wrangler duratrac tires on it for a bit over 7 years now.

As a side note/question, the tires have so little wear on them that people frequently mistake them for newer tires. Aside from sidewall cracks, anything else I should be watching for in terms of aging tire damage?
 
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I got 225/75 R16's on my 96' 4 door AWD sport/utility without modifications and I only have rubbing when locking all the way to the left. I suspect part of that is due to an alignment that needs to be done, but beyond that there are no problems on them. Been using Goodyear Wrangler duratrac tires on it for a bit over 7 years now.

As a side note/question, the tires have so little wear on them that people frequently mistake them for newer tires. Aside from sidewall cracks, anything else I should be watching for in terms of aging tire damage?
Thanks for the info, although I'm surprised because I've had several reports of that size tire rubbing. Perhaps, it has more to do with spring sag in cars that maybe had heavier loads moved in them. This is one reason we ask everyone for input.

Typically tires should be replaced if they are over 7 years old. The materials the tire is made of breaks down from sunlight, oxygen, ozone, etc. Not to mention damage to the tire which may only be internal from pot holes, etc.
 
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This was a chart that has been updated. See Tire chart
 
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