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I needed new tires, so I went to the shop without doing proper due diligence and ended up with some Bridgestone Ecopia EP422's, which I now understand is a passenger car tire.

I think the Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia is their crossover/light SUV version of the regular Ecopia. Should I have gotten the Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia's instead? If so, why? What makes them more suitable for a crossover/light SUV? Why would the regular Ecopia 422's be less suited for crossover/light SUV?

If anyone on here is using the regular Ecopia for their RAV 4, how has it worked out? If you had to do it differently would you get the Dueler Ecopia's instead?

Bridgestone has a 30 day guarantee, so I'm thinking about switching…By the way, my Rav 4 is a 2012 V6 4wd Base which I just bought last week :)

Any nuggets of wisdom anyone is willing to share will be appreciated!
 
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Don't buy the marketing hype. If the service description is right for the RAV4, it doesn't matter whether the marketing folks call it a car tire or an SUV tire. There might be differences in how the tire feels or performs in different situations, but if you like them, run with it.
 
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rdpjr said:
I needed new tires, so I went to the shop without doing proper due diligence and ended up with some Bridgestone Ecopia EP422's, which I now understand is a passenger car tire.

I think the Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia is their crossover/light SUV version of the regular Ecopia. Should I have gotten the Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia's instead? If so, why? What makes them more suitable for a crossover/light SUV? Why would the regular Ecopia 422's be less suited for crossover/light SUV?

If anyone on here is using the regular Ecopia for their RAV 4, how has it worked out? If you had to do it differently would you get the Dueler Ecopia's instead?

Bridgestone has a 30 day guarantee, so I'm thinking about switching…By the way, my Rav 4 is a 2012 V6 4wd Base which I just bought last week :)

Any nuggets of wisdom anyone is willing to share will be appreciated!
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I had a set of Ecopia EP422's installed in April on my 2008 Limited, and they are very nice. I have no complaints. They were cheaper than the Dueler H/L's too.
 
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Thanks to everyone for their responses….this forum has been extremely helpful.

leeharvey 418: I suspect you are right, although you ask a very good question in your post:

"There might be differences in how the tire feels or performs in different situations"

That's kind of the question I'm trying to get at…what might be the situations where one would be better than the other? Is there any real difference between a "car" tire and an "SUV' tire, or is it in fact mostly marketing hype?….I have to admit as of this point they feel pretty good on my car, although I'm judging them against the old tires that had little tread left.

Blogson, thanks for posting…I read that document probably no more than 5 minutes before you posted.

Avs, I'm pretty sure the size I have is the proper size for my vehicle, which is 225/65-17.

Junebug, I must admit it makes me feel better that you have had yours since April and still like them.

I'm probably over thinking this, so if I am, sorry. I appreciate everyone for chiming in.
 
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If your intent is to be on paved roads, a 'passenger tire' is fine, even preferable for the RAV, IMO. That's the route I went and plenty happy.

This article is basic, but to the point about the difference:

http://www.ehow.com/about_5575266_passenger-tire-vs-suv-tire.html

You could also go to TireRack.com, and search your tire, see how it stacks up in various performance categories and people's opinions.
 
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Thank you, Ravn4Red, that was a very helpful article….just the kind of info I was looking for.

I'll be on paved roads mostly, but I mountain bike, backpack, camp, day hike etc. a lot as well, so I'm on dirt roads/campground roads a lot as well. Having said that, these are still roads, although they can get very bumpy/washboardy (sorry I know that's not a word)

I do not plan on offroading my Rav4, since I know it's not an off road vehicle.

I'll go to Tire Rack and see what kind of info I can glean…Thanks again.
 
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rdpjr said:
Junebug, I must admit it makes me feel better that you have had yours since April and still like them.
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Well, yes, since April but I have less than 5000 miles on them so far. They are far superior to the OEM tires they replaced. And I don't do anything even close to off-roading.
 
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When I bought my [FONT=&quot]H/L 422[/FONT] in 2011, the regular ones were only available in the smaller car size and much cheaper. Not sure what size you use, but in my size, 225/65R17, H/L is rated 102H while the regular 422 is rated 100T. You should not be using tire that is load or speed rated below OEM tire. Any tire shop should know that.
 
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rdpjr said:
...so I'm on dirt roads/campground roads a lot as well. Having said that, these are still roads, although they can get very bumpy/washboardy...
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In that case, I'd go for the Dueller H/L 422.
 
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225/65R17, H/L is rated 102H while the regular 422 is rated 100T...
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The difference in speed rating notwithstanding, the difference in load rating is because the 422 is P-metric, and the H/L is E-metric. The load capacity of each is essentially the same, despite the different rating.

P225/65R17 100x @ 32 psi: 1709 lb load capacity
225/65R17 102x @ 32 psi: 1687 lb load capacity
 
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i have bouth tyres 225/55/18 ecopia for outlander 2wd , Dular 217/70/16 for ford escape 4x4, dular . Dulers tyers lost longer than ecopia in milage ,inever had problom with ecopia too they are good in wet roads ,i think they are having value for money
 
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