Looking for first had experience converting an auto 4wd to manual 4wd. Planning to do the 3sgte swap but almost all I can find are auto chassis's. I'm mechanically inclined and have done the swap on many hondas, acuras and nissan. \
Auto to manual conversion info?
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Well, I'd like to join this thread 
Bought RAV4 1996 auto transmission and want to convert it to manual because it is practically impossible to find alive manual 5doors here (lots of 3dr though).
Currently trying to prepare list of required components and estimate price for materials. Hopefully will trade in my auto parts so it won't be so expensive. Going to D.Y.I.
So, are there any ideas what I need for successful change?
My list so far is (excluding gaskets, bolts, oil):
- Pilot bearing
- Engine plate?
- Flywheel
- Clutch assembly (Clutch disk, Pressure plate, Throw-out bearing)
- Bell housing (if it's not part of transmission)
- Manual transmission
- Gear shift with levers
- 3 Pedals assembly
- Clutch master cylinder
- Clutch lines
- Clutch slave cylinder
- Probably ECU replace (to check)
My questions so far pretty simple.
Does auto/manual use same SXA11 chassis and 3S-FE engine (should be same, but may be there some pitfalls with mountings or supports)?
Anything else?
Bought RAV4 1996 auto transmission and want to convert it to manual because it is practically impossible to find alive manual 5doors here (lots of 3dr though).Currently trying to prepare list of required components and estimate price for materials. Hopefully will trade in my auto parts so it won't be so expensive. Going to D.Y.I.
So, are there any ideas what I need for successful change?
My list so far is (excluding gaskets, bolts, oil):
- Pilot bearing
- Engine plate?
- Flywheel
- Clutch assembly (Clutch disk, Pressure plate, Throw-out bearing)
- Bell housing (if it's not part of transmission)
- Manual transmission
- Gear shift with levers
- 3 Pedals assembly
- Clutch master cylinder
- Clutch lines
- Clutch slave cylinder
- Probably ECU replace (to check)
My questions so far pretty simple.
Does auto/manual use same SXA11 chassis and 3S-FE engine (should be same, but may be there some pitfalls with mountings or supports)?
Anything else?
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Unless you want to DESTROY your engine, and GEARBOX. Take that PILOT BEARING off that list.Well, I'd like to join this thread
Currently trying to prepare list of required components and estimate price for materials. Hopefully will trade in my auto parts so it won't be so expensive. Going to D.Y.I.
So, are there any ideas what I need for successful change?
My list so far is (excluding gaskets, bolts, oil):
- Pilot bearing
- Engine plate?
- Flywheel
- Clutch assembly (Clutch disk, Pressure plate, Throw-out bearing)
- Bell housing (if it's not part of transmission)
- Manual transmission
- Gear shift with levers
- 3 Pedals assembly
- Clutch master cylinder
- Clutch lines
- Clutch slave cylinder
- Probably ECU replace (to check)
My questions so far pretty simple.
Does auto/manual use same SXA11 chassis and 3S-FE engine (should be same, but may be there some pitfalls with mountings or supports)?
Anything else?
In addition to the 3S-GTE Swap I've done the auto to manual swap and ALL YOU NEED are
three holes drilled into the firewall for the clutch master cylinder
Clutch Master cylinder and line
Clutch Pedal from Manual Rav
Brake Pedal from Manual Rav
Manual 3S-FE ECU
E250 AWD Rav4 Gearbox
Gear-shift and cables
USE OEM TOYOTA THROWOUT BEARINGS ONLY! NEVER USE THE ONES IN THE KIT!
New Clutch and pressure plate (Throw pilot bearing away as soon as you open box!)
I DESTROYED a JDM 3S-FE by putting the pilot bearing in there. It comes in the Kit because SOME Vehicles call for it. But keep in mind this clutch kit works for like 50 different vehciles and only about 10 use that pilot bearing.
NO 3S-FE Engine or 5S-FE Engine has a pilot bearing put into the crankshaft.
Because Marijuana, I put a pilot bearing in the crankshaft, mated the gearbox, and the engine ran for 45 seconds, then it was SIEZED, DEAD. Here are the pieces of it AFTER the fact.
The pilot bearing pushed the crankshaft up against the thrust bearings, and friction welded the engine. Here is whats left of what I pulled out of the crankshaft. You Live, You Learn.
Wow that's VERY valuable advice! Thank you.
Glad that it looks doable and there people who actually did it
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I was a total Rav Newbie when I made this mistake, It was about five years ago, I've learned a lot since then. It was catastrophic, but a huge learning experience.Wow that's VERY valuable advice! Thank you.
Glad that it looks doable and there people who actually did it
I should have known though, there was no pilot bearing in the shaft when I disassembled it, therefore putting it in there was idiotic.
Well, I'd like to join this thread
Currently trying to prepare list of required components and estimate price for materials. Hopefully will trade in my auto parts so it won't be so expensive. Going to D.Y.I.
So, are there any ideas what I need for successful change?
My list so far is (excluding gaskets, bolts, oil):
- Pilot bearing
- Engine plate?
- Flywheel
- Clutch assembly (Clutch disk, Pressure plate, Throw-out bearing)
- Bell housing (if it's not part of transmission)
- Manual transmission
- Gear shift with levers
- 3 Pedals assembly
- Clutch master cylinder
- Clutch lines
- Clutch slave cylinder
- Probably ECU replace (to check)
My questions so far pretty simple.
Does auto/manual use same SXA11 chassis and 3S-FE engine (should be same, but may be there some pitfalls with mountings or supports)?
Anything else?
I have never done this on Rav4, but I have done it on a DSM (Mitsubishi Eclipse and Eagle Talon), you also have to use a matching rear end (different gear ratio) and drill the holes in the firewall for the clutch master cylinder, which was very difficult to access.
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I used my original Rav4 Driveshaft and rear End. Everything fit perfectly. I'm running the gen4 3S-GTE with it's factory original E150 AWD 5Spd Gearbox. Mind you I'm using the Factory original Caldina front drive shafts, (which are identical to ST205 Celica TURBO version drive shafts)
Closest car wreckers billed me $850 NZD for all parts except clutch which I will take new. With new clutch it will take approx. $1100 NZD While I search for additional options and collect money (which will take a while due to low priority) I want to clarify another question.
Will I still have 4wd on my car after replacement? I think that there should be actuator(s) controlled by automatic transmission that lock diff. when needed. Should I replace this actuator(s) as well from diff? Or its not that easy (and I need to replace diffs?)? Or it's just enough to take some button-relay-fuse from manual and connect to existing actuator(s)? And is it one or two of them?
Will I still have 4wd on my car after replacement? I think that there should be actuator(s) controlled by automatic transmission that lock diff. when needed. Should I replace this actuator(s) as well from diff? Or its not that easy (and I need to replace diffs?)? Or it's just enough to take some button-relay-fuse from manual and connect to existing actuator(s)? And is it one or two of them?
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Do you have any further input on the 3sgte swap, especially 5spd tranny options/requirements when swapping from aito... i kind of stubbled onto the wrong forum fyi. I plan on swaping a 5spd awd 3sgte (st185) into a toyota camry awd automatic. Im probably buying a jdm motor that comes with the 5MT. But, its ridiculously overpriced. I can get an engine much cheaper but struggling to find a suitable 5spd awd tranny option.
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