Toyota RAV4 Forums banner
21 - 40 of 70 Posts
Discussion starter · #21 ·
You would think that Toyota could easily put Camry horns on the RAV4 -- I know I do! -- and that would stop people like us from having to change them out. After all, I had a 2014 Camry and was very pleased with the sound of the horns on that, but was pretty embarrassed to hear the horns on my RAV4 when I got it last March.

The only thing I can really think of is the RAV4 is manufactured in Japan and the Camry is manufactured in the U.S. (specifically, Georgetown, Kentucky and Lafayette, Indiana). Of course, I don't have any idea where the horns are manufactured, but perhaps the RAV4 horns are supplied by an Asian company and the Camry horns are supplied by a U.S. company. Assuming that's true -- and I don't know if we can really assume that or not, but for the purposes of this argument... -- then obviously it wouldn't be very cost effective to send a shipload of Camry horns all the way to Japan to install on (at least) U.S.-bound RAV4s. Since I'm sure there aren't that many people out there with RAV4s that bother to change out the horns (or even care, for that matter!), I doubt Toyota is all that concerned about it one way or another!

Just my three cents (I got a raise -- my social security check went up $.05 this year -- and can afford to splurge!!!)
 
Mistake on my part and didn't follow the instructions step by step few days ago.

This afternoon I've read the instruction again and also removed the additional screws/plastic holder at wheel well. Afterwards, I was able to lose the bumper by using a small flat head screwdriver to lift 3-4 black tab that hold the bumper on each side. after that, I was able to move the bumper forward few inches and use socket wrench to remove screws that hold the horns.

Thanks for all the instructions.
 
Good morning from Spain Europe ??
This is my first participaciĂłn in this
forum
I have a 2016 Rav4 hybrid and only have 1 horn (Maruko MR-FH-03) with obviously only 1 connector.
I'm interested in installing a Fiamm El Grande kit but before I buy it, I have a question to Justmegee (or any one else Rav4 owner who already made the change from a single horn to a double horn).
My doubth is concerning the connection from one horn to the other without cutting any wires, since the car has only 1 connector.
Has the El Grande kit a single plug and play connector in one horn and wires to connect to the second one?
I'll greatly appreciate your help
 
Thanks Justmegee
It seems that for Europe only have 1 horn (loud).
I have already purchased a set of dual tone Fiamm AM80S (almost same as El Grande)
Once I receive it and install I'll check if there is a hidden connector for the second horn to easy the replacement.
In any case I've already prepared the wiring hardness for the Fiamm horns.
 

Attachments

..It seems that for Europe only have 1 horn (loud).
I have already purchased a set of dual tone Fiamm AM80S (almost same as El Grande)
Once I receive it and install I'll check if there is a hidden connector for the second horn to easy the replacement.
In any case I've already prepared the wiring hardness for the Fiamm horns.
Take another look, you should have two horns, unless things are radically different over there. They are not located together. I think the one on the passenger side is a little lower. Each one has a mount bracket and a single wire connecting to it. Should be plug and play for your two horn set. After you loosen the bolts and pry the work area apart a little bit you should see both horns.

And yeah, the meep-eep is lame.
 
Is it the meep-meep horn like the Road Runner?

Yes, very much like the bird that el coyote couldn't catch - much to the chagrin of the ACME company!
 
Thanks RAVN4RED
You are probably right and most sure I have 2 horns but only can see 1 looking through the front grill.
As soon as I receive the new horn set in a few days, I'll do the installation.
Plan A is just remove the 5 or 6 clips on top and the 2 each side in the wheel well and then pull the bumper off and tilt it sufficiently to make room for my hands and get access from the top.
Plan B is to remove the compete bumper, removing bolts (I think are 6) under the bumper.
Once the job is done I'll make and later share pics and my comments but before that I have a question.
You said that connection will be just plug and play but my new FIAMM horn set AM 80 S has 2 male blade 6,3 mm each horn (current and ground). I guees if the car connector at the end of the cables are female if will fit (plug and play) but in any case I'll have to reroute the other horn terminal to ground, since the OEM horn has only a single cable and horn body grounded.
Sorry if I din not explain clearly but my english is not as good as I wish

 
I already made succesfully the change on my Rav4 2016 hybrid basically following PSILOGENIC recommentadion Thanks!!
Just for those still having questions, please see some pictures I have taken
1) shows the screw 8mm hex head and the plastic clip which attach the bumper in the wheel well

2&3) for pulling off the bumper make sure the round dimple is release by lifting it a bit, otherwise it will not come off. (See before and after release)
4) Do It in both sides and after that remove the 6 (4 screws and 2 plastic clips)
The bumper can then be moved forward easely.
It os not a matter of force neither could temperatures the easy of the job.
5) bumper moved ahead

Hope It help somebody
 

Attachments

Hi all, first post here. My wife and I just got a '17 RAV4 Hybrid and too were disappointed with the factory horn. So, I ordered a set of Hella Supertones to replace it. Going through this thread, I think swapping them out will be a non-issue thanks to everyone's hard work and photos, but do you know if I need to build the wiring harness for the Hella's or is there enough power going to the factory horns without the need for the 'Hella harness' or am I going to put something together.


Thanks much!
 
Hi all, first post here. My wife and I just got a '17 RAV4 Hybrid and too were disappointed with the factory horn. So, I ordered a set of Hella Supertones to replace it. Going through this thread, I think swapping them out will be a non-issue thanks to everyone's hard work and photos, but do you know if I need to build the wiring harness for the Hella's or is there enough power going to the factory horns without the need for the 'Hella harness' or am I going to put something together.


Thanks much!

Recently I had a problem with one of my 'Camry' horns and was gonna replace the both of them just in case. I couldn't use the Hella horns because the wiring harness wasn't compatible with the Toyota harness/plug. Fortunately I fixed the 'broken' horn by removing and inspecting both of them - there was water in the bell of the lowest mounted horn. I reinstalled it with the bell facing 180 degrees down and it works as good as new.

Bottom line, if you're gonna go through the hassle of dismantling parts from the front of your vehicle, i.e., grill, bumper, etc. then why not install 'plug-n-play' Toyota horns (Camry model) instead and avoid the hassle of rewiring? The Camry horns fit like a glove and are loud as well.
 
Hi all, first post here. My wife and I just got a '17 RAV4 Hybrid and too were disappointed with the factory horn. So, I ordered a set of Hella Supertones to replace it. Going through this thread, I think swapping them out will be a non-issue thanks to everyone's hard work and photos, but do you know if I need to build the wiring harness for the Hella's or is there enough power going to the factory horns without the need for the 'Hella harness' or am I going to put something together.
Welcome to RAV4World! The factory wiring and relay will work fine with your Hella horns. I installed Fiamm El Grande horns and the existing plugs fit quite well on the new horns, and they have worked flawlessly for over 6 years.
 
The factory wiring and relay will work fine with your Hella horns. I installed Fiamm El Grande horns and the existing plugs fit quite well on the new horns, and they have worked flawlessly for over 6 years.
Some of the Hella horns do require a bit of extra wiring, as Toyotera3 mentioned. On the RAV factory horns, the mounting bracket serves as the negative connection, and there is only one spade type connector that runs to power (positive). On some of the Hellas (and the PIAA horns I have) you have two spades (+ and -) so you have to run a wire from the negative to underneath the bracket. And you have to cut off the RAV female connector and replace with a female spade connector:

These are not installed on RAV4 but you get the idea. As MikeyD mentioned in his post, if you go with Camry horns you can insure a plug and play install. And also on some of the aftermarket horns, like the ones you have.


As for horn sound quality, this video has a couple of Hellas--the SuperTones are louder thanthe RAV stock horns, but still have the eep-meep quality:

I prefer the twin trumpet style over the SuperTone disc type.
 
Some of the Hella horns do require a bit of extra wiring, as Toyotera3 mentioned. On the RAV factory horns, the mounting bracket serves as the negative connection, and there is only one spade type connector that runs to power (positive). On some of the Hellas (and the PIAA horns I have) you have two spades (+ and -) so you have to run a wire from the negative to underneath the bracket. And you have to cut off the RAV female connector and replace with a female spade connector:

Well, I've ended up with a pair of Supertones as well as the FIAMM Highway Blasters; I have yet to attempt to install either of them as I was on the fence with ordering OEM Camry horns, however with them costing around $115 total that's a bit bigger of a pill to swallow than the $30/each for these ones. As I am not one to want to mess with cutting anything on a wiring harness, I was planning on using T-Taps to splice a new connection from.


So, a couple of questions, for the Supertones; the current wiring setup with the '17 RAV4, all I need to do is run a jumper-wire from the negative terminal on the horn to where the bolt connects the horn to the frame? Then I would just T-Tap from the horn connection to a spade connection or whatever one goes with the Supertones? No need for running a wire harness to that relay that is included with the horns? When I started researching them more is when I ordered the FIAMMs as I am not interested in having a rats nest of wiring powering my horn setup; I would just assume leave it stock if that is the only option.


Regarding the FIAMMs, it sounds like the existing RAV4 horn connection will slip onto the FIAMMs without issue according to another poster.


Guess I have to listen to both of them to find out. I wish the front end on this thing wasn't such a pain in the butt. We traded a '13 Accord Hybrid in for the RAV4 and I upgraded the horns on that as well, just popped a piece of plastic off on under the hood and reached down with a socket wrench and I was done 20 minutes later.
 
You're on the right track, it just depends on which model. Some of the FIAMM horns have 2 contacts (see Toyotera3's pic of some FIAMMs on previous page). So for you can build a simple negative wire (to the bracket). And a postive wire or tap for each horn. (I built a new positive wire with spade male connecting into the RAV existing wire via spade female.) If you have a FIAMM where the bracket serves as the negative connection, it should be plug and play--unless you need to the tap for power as you mentioned if your new horn wire doesn't fit the Toyota connector.

Yeah I hear you on avoiding higher costs for new Camry horns. Some folks here have picked them up on the cheap at salvage yards. OEM would make it easier and cleaner, but the other options are really not that difficult.
 
I already made succesfully the change on my Rav4 2016 hybrid basically following PSILOGENIC recommentadion Thanks!!
Just for those still having questions, please see some pictures I have taken
1) shows the screw 8mm hex head and the plastic clip which attach the bumper in the wheel well

2&3) for pulling off the bumper make sure the round dimple is release by lifting it a bit, otherwise it will not come off. (See before and after release)
4) Do It in both sides and after that remove the 6 (4 screws and 2 plastic clips)
The bumper can then be moved forward easely.
It os not a matter of force neither could temperatures the easy of the job.
5) bumper moved ahead

Hope It help somebody
This is probably the best and safest way of doing it (2017 XLE). Took me about 25-30 min. Bumper moves forward and opens plenty of room to replace horns. Famms sound fantastic. Much better then OEM horns. Modern cars like lego`s haha.. pop pop pop.. and front is off. Replaced Fog Light bulbs while at it too, with LED`s. :D
 
21 - 40 of 70 Posts