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Your not going to un-leash any more horsepower,
Its just a sensitivity of the gas pedal

Its very responsive in sports mode, as you found out.
In ECO mode, its very "squishy" and dull.

I use it to keep the Needle in the ECO range, and not into ( or not often) in the POWER arc...

IN Sports mode, very fun to drive, very responsive, but you'll get the same drive in Eco or normal, just have to press the pedal more....
 
Try it and see just how your gas pedal foot affects things.

I drive in ECO allways and have on my previous hybrid but, if I need to merge or pass, I get that left hand meter into the power zone by pressing the gas pedal faster and harder. But for 97% of my driving, I want to deaden the effect my gas pedal foot has in calling for a squirt of gas just because I applied 2 PSI more in a distracted way. I tend to drive at a constant speed traffic allowing and use the cruise for stretches as short as 10 miles. I want people around me to never associate my driving with the fact that it is a hybrid beyond maybe slowing down for a turn or a light more than a bit early.
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
i took it out on Sport mode the whole, most freeway and some local. i can see that the regen happens more frequently, and engine kicks in as soon as 20 mph. i would feather the pedal once it got up to my target speed. After about 70 miles, my avg was 35 mpg, about 3 mpg lower than my ECO mode, not too bad.
 
Curious does Sports Mode firm up the suspension at all or is it just the electronic steering? The reason I ask is that I'm looking at replacing the stock suspension with a coil over lift suspension and I'm wondering if this will impact anything.
 
Curious does Sports Mode firm up the suspension at all or is it just the electronic steering? The reason I ask is that I'm looking at replacing the stock suspension with a coil over lift suspension and I'm wondering if this will impact anything.

I pressed the Sport button. Now what?
Initiating Sport Mode in your Toyota vehicle manipulates certain elements of the transmission lockup and shifting as well as the throttle response and Electronic Power Steering assist. More specifically, you’ll feel the gas pedal is easier to press down and acceleration is much quicker, since the gears shift up faster than when driving in normal mode. Sport Mode is designed for improved handling and lateral stability, which makes for a much sportier driving experience and a more performance-oriented feel. It’s worth noting that, while in Sport Mode, you may notice a reduction in fuel efficiency.


Still didn't answer your question..
"improved Handling and lateral stability"
How?? Software??
Probably, by using the awd system


ECO Mode
  • Gas pedal less responsive--helps prevent jack rabbit starts and unnecessarily quick acceleration when resuming cruise control
  • Softer shifts
  • Transmission shifts into higher gears sooner to maintain lower engine RPM
  • Reduces air conditioner compressor draw on electrical system

Sport Mode
  • Essentially the opposite of ECO Mode
  • Transmission holds gears longer to keep engine at higher RPMs
  • Firmer shifts
  • Gas pedal very responsive to actuation
 
ECO Mode
  • Gas pedal less responsive--helps prevent jack rabbit starts and unnecessarily quick acceleration when resuming cruise control
  • Softer shifts
  • Transmission shifts into higher gears sooner to maintain lower engine RPM
  • Reduces air conditioner compressor draw on electrical system
Sport Mode
  • Essentially the opposite of ECO Mode
  • Transmission holds gears longer to keep engine at higher RPMs
  • Firmer shifts
  • Gas pedal very responsive to actuation
It is interesting that it describes shifting gears when the "eCVT" doesn't actually change any gear ratios. Higher RPM, however, will send more power to the wheels.
 
Real sport mode yes, sometimes. Not only by selecting sport mode (red dash) on the center console, but also pull the shifter to the left while in D. Now you can use the sequential gear shifter (+ & -) or the steering wheel paddles to 'shift' manually. That is real Sport mode...
Try it!
 
In Europe the most critical situation is passing another car on a back road. That's when I welcome sports mode and every single hp the car provides. Sports mode, flooring, and whooosh! Really quick passing maneuvres are essential to keep risks low IMHO. Safety first, mpg don't matter in these moments. Writing this as a self-assessed defensive driver without any accident in >50 years... and in good old Germany where you may speed unlimited (not really: Toyota limits at 180, Mercedes at 250 km/h) on the Autobahn.
So I appreciate the power reserves of my R4P.
 
Discussion starter · #17 ·
So now i do most driving in ECO mode unless i am on a freeway over 70 mph.

So when i am in ECO mode and would a push of torque in cases like going up on a slope or making a pass, i would then a quick tap on the mode, getting into the "normal" mode, and then quickly switch it back to ECO - it okay for the car? Any harm to the car? It does work for me, and anyone else using the same technique?
 
I think everbody develops his own way. I use Normal in EV and Eco in HV, since Eco has AFAIK hardly an effect in EV but moderates rpm of the ICE. So on the freeway I go in HV and Eco with incredibly low gas consumption, especially with regard to the high air drag coefficient. Just read 52 mpg = 4,5 l/100 km the other day over nearly 300 km, most of it highway, i.e. Autobahn. Oh boy, I am so happy with this car... except for some details.
 
Yes, i turned on the Sport mode and wow the car was more responsive and more power. Anyone has info on the MPG difference btw ECO, Normal and Sport modes?
Sport mode does not give more power.

Sport mode delivers power faster, less latency after driver inputs.

The power delivered by the system is always the same.
 
I pressed the Sport button. Now what?
Initiating Sport Mode in your Toyota vehicle manipulates certain elements of the transmission lockup and shifting as well as the throttle response and Electronic Power Steering assist. More specifically, you’ll feel the gas pedal is easier to press down and acceleration is much quicker, since the gears shift up faster than when driving in normal mode. Sport Mode is designed for improved handling and lateral stability, which makes for a much sportier driving experience and a more performance-oriented feel. It’s worth noting that, while in Sport Mode, you may notice a reduction in fuel efficiency.


Still didn't answer your question..
"improved Handling and lateral stability"
How?? Software??
Probably, by using the awd system


ECO Mode
  • Gas pedal less responsive--helps prevent jack rabbit starts and unnecessarily quick acceleration when resuming cruise control
  • Softer shifts
  • Transmission shifts into higher gears sooner to maintain lower engine RPM
  • Reduces air conditioner compressor draw on electrical system

Sport Mode
  • Essentially the opposite of ECO Mode
  • Transmission holds gears longer to keep engine at higher RPMs
  • Firmer shifts
  • Gas pedal very responsive to actuation
I would not say that in sport, the gas pedal is "easier" to press...its more responsive.
 
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