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Here's a 100k mile review on a '16 Ltd HV.

 
Discussion starter · #22 · (Edited)
Ok I kind of read that long schedule and also read the Toyota Care schedule.
Like most of these free maintenance programs across all car manufacturers it covers
very little in the way of actual replacement parts. I looks like it only covers and oil change
at 10 and 20k.(at 5k and 15k you pay for it I guess)
(The thing is extreme conditions are actually normal conditions)
BMW went to lifetime fluids on there cars but that the lifetime is 100k. Just long enough to
cover there max warranty .The only thing
they covered under the regular free maintenance was oil changes and brake fluid. And unless
you followed what was said in there warranty manual and insisted on a yearly oil change it
will be at 16k miles.
 
Maintenance schedule that comes with hybrids, is it the same as for gas model?
Change oil every 10K (5K on dirty roads or lots of cold starts below 32F)?
It's basically the same. There's a few items the AWD gas model has that the hybrid doesn't (like a transfer case), so those don't need to be inspected or replaced. And there's one new item: cleaning the hybrid battery cooling filter and fan. And even then, both of these are "special operating conditions" items.

It would actually make a lot of sense for the hybrid to have a different maintenance schedule. A hybrid would see less wear on the engine, mile for mile, since often the electric motors are used instead and the engine can just be turned off or run at a lower RPM. Even the air filter should have a longer life since it needs to filter less air. And the transmission is completely different, with a much simpler design in the hybrid. But Toyota decided to keep the same schedule -- I'm guessing just for simplicity's sake more than anything else.
 
Discussion starter · #26 ·
You can download the Manual and there are some maintenance schedules you can download to.
At the Toyota website.
There was another thread on this to I think.
Electric steering no fluid .
The responses near the beginning of this thread have more info.
 
Some Brake fluid absorbs moisture (not DOT5) and even if DOT 3, it can't absorb moisture it is not exposed to. If the master cylinder cap is sealed, and you don't open it just to look, humidity/moisture can never come into contact and be absorbed by fluid. Regarding trans/diff fluids, it can be a "double edge sword" issue if you consider the factory is literally operating room clean, and some places that people use to do their service would put more contaminants in then take out. So maybe the engineers decided to use the maintenance schedule published. When it comes down to it, there is never a good substitute for a good technician inspecting/working on your car to advise you on your cars particular needs whether you live in Alaska or Texas.
 
And also on the hybrid brakes, remember if driven correctly, you are stopping by the drive motor/generators and not by applying your brakes, so no heat/dust/wear at brakes therefore sealed brake fluid life will be greater then standard (non hybrid) vehicles.
 
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