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Can somebody with an adventure chime in....

Are the larger adventure roof rails tacked or screwed onto the flat flush rails on all the other models or does it seem like the adventure roof rails are one piece?

I'm trying to figure out how I can change the flat rails for adventure rails.
 
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Hi japoki,


I wish I could answer your question by experience as I am looking to do the exact same thing as you. I have the flush rails and need the raised rails. But I did go to my dealer to see what was involved and get a quote for the parts for switching to the raised Adventure rails. They scratched their heads a bit but said it looked like it was doable. The adventure rail parts were over $1,500, so that ended that. I may still go that direction, but I think I will wait for an adventure to show up in a salvage yard with good rails somewhere. I hope you have a line on the parts! Definitely interested what else you may come up with or if you go that route.


I need long cross bars that extend out beyond the rails and the OEM (adventure) cross bars do not do that. I already own Thule 450R Rapid Crossroad foot packs that are designed to strap around most any raised rails. I have Thule 60"Aeroblade bars to go with them. These were taken off the Dodge Journey that was sold before buying the Rav.


Alternatively, I've been waiting for Thule to release an actual bolt-on foot pack kit for the 2019+ Rav4 and would sell the universal 450R foot packs. I'd be happy either way...
 
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japoki1982 said:
Can somebody with an adventure chime in....

Are the larger adventure roof rails tacked or screwed onto the flat flush rails on all the other models or does it seem like the adventure roof rails are one piece?

I'm trying to figure out how I can change the flat rails for adventure rails.
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You have an Adventure from reading your previous posts, you mean you want to swap out your Adventure rails for the non-Adventure rails, right?

japoki1982 said:
I have the valve closing sound as well on my gas adventure.....
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Quickdtoo said:
You have an Adventure from reading your previous posts, you mean you want to swap your Adventure rails for the non-Adventure rails, right?
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No, I have an adventure w/o adventure rails (and I want to put on the adventure rails).

Apparently Servco (the exclusive Hawaii region distributor) only brings them in with the flush rails (the type on all the other versions)

I don't believe Servco is even affiliated with Toyota USA. I think they may be working through Toyota Japan.

Servco brings in their cars to Hawaii with their own somewhat unique packages, options, and accessories (but they don't have their own brochures so I looked at Toyota USA).

I wanted an adventure and picked the lowest priced variation in which they bring in which included the sunroof (which I didn't know since it wasn't on their list of features and I didn't want), qi wireless pad, JBL, Entune Audio Plus. Plus it included rubber floor mats and the silver door sill protectors, cargo net. There may be others that I can't think of at the moment. Somehow they have it built into the model as they're not listed as accessories as I didn't pay for them separately and wouldn't want them. In fact half the stuff isn't even listed on the moroney sticker.

Servco sells a LOT in Hawaii so I think they have a lot of pull with Japan. They even got Toyota to build them special 100 year anniversary editions of the tacoma and 4runner for them.

Servco Celebrates 100-Year Anniversary with Special Edition Toyota & Lexus Vehicles - Servco

I don't normally have a problem with them. I just hate how they bring in their own variations of models. Otherwise I like my adventure.

I think Toyota sells about 25% of all cars/trucks in Hawaii and Servco is the exclusive distributor, so its take it or leave it which I don't think they'll be too sad about since they'll just sell your car to the next person that comes in the door.
 
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Sounds like a PITA, seems like they're treating HI almost as a foreign county, not unlike PR! ! I'd contact a dealer parts dept to see how much the Adventure rails and crossbars are shipped, the Adventure crossbar part number is PT278-42191, you may be able to beat the dealer price for them online. '19 OEM parts lists aren't available online yet other than accessories, some online retailers don't even list 2018 yet!:rolleyes:

Good luck!
 
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japoki1982 said:
No, I have an adventure w/o adventure rails (and I want to put on the adventure rails).
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I've been wondering about making alterations to my rails too. The video that Quichdtoo posted is the first "insight" that I have seen about how the rails may be mounted to the vehicle. I'll have to take another look at mine to see if there is access at the base of the tall rails.


To answer your question more specifically. The tall rails are totally covered by plastic that almost appear to be 1 piece (there are no flat rails like on the other models). There are only a couple of windows (much like the video) in the upper inside portion of the rail to attach the crossbars only in that specific location. The cross bars do have (2) horizontal screw mounts on each end vs the single mount shown in the video. And the steel supporting structure is visible under the plastic covering when you remove the cross bars.


Personally, I would suspect that the job of swapping the rails would not be very difficult. But a little "know-how" would go a long way. If your adventurous, looks like at least some of the mounting hardware is underneath those little covers (shown in the video). You may take a driver and start loosening those bad boys up just to see what happens?


Here's my $0.02 though. If your going to go to that much trouble and expense, personally, I'd go with a complete aftermarket rail system. Looks to me like the Toyota Rail System is not very versatile on either model. Even the rails on the tall bars can only be placed in (1) location.
 
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Hey guys,
I own a 2019 Rav4 hybrid, and earlier this week I came across this forum looking for quick answer as to how difficult it would be to swap the hybrid roof rails for the adventure model rails. I looked elsewhere on the internet as well but couldn't find anything. My local dealership was not sure if it could be done. I went ahead and purchased the adventure rails anyway, and found out that it's a little more difficult to swap out the rails than I anticipated, but it can be done. It requires that you remove the celing/headliner to access the bolt nuts on the underside of the roof, which was somewhat difficult. you have to remvove all the ceiling handholds, the sunvisor and sunvisor clips, and the front light console in the middle. You also have to unclip the plastic sidewalls around the entire cabin including the back trunk/cargo area (you must be very careful as some of these contain airbags). Once you do all this the headliner can be pulled down a bit and you can have a few inches to reach the 8 underside roof rack bolt nuts. Once the ceiling/headliner was lowered, it was actually pretty easy to exchange the rails. Feel free to direct message me with any questions.
 

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Fiziuhtrist said:
Hey guys,
I own a 2019 Rav4 hybrid, and earlier this week I came across this forum looking for quick answer as to how difficult it would be to swap the hybrid roof rails for the adventure model rails. I looked elsewhere on the internet as well but couldn't find anything. My local dealership was not sure if it could be done. I went ahead and purchased the adventure rails anyway, and found out that it's a little more difficult to swap out the rails than I anticipated, but it can be done. It requires that you remove the celing/headliner to access the bolt nuts on the underside of the roof, which was somewhat difficult. you have to remvove all the ceiling handholds, the sunvisor and sunvisor clips, and the front light console in the middle. You also have to unclip the plastic sidewalls around the entire cabin including the back trunk/cargo area (you must be very careful as some of these contain airbags). Once you do all this the headliner can be pulled down a bit and you can have a few inches to reach the 8 underside roof rack bolt nuts. Once the ceiling/headliner was lowered, it was actually pretty easy to exchange the rails. Feel free to direct message me with any questions.
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Oh, and by the way, it took me approximately 5 hours
 
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Fiziuhtrist said:
Hey guys,
I own a 2019 Rav4 hybrid, and earlier this week I came across this forum looking for quick answer as to how difficult it would be to swap the hybrid roof rails for the adventure model rails. I looked elsewhere on the internet as well but couldn't find anything. My local dealership was not sure if it could be done. I went ahead and purchased the adventure rails anyway, and found out that it's a little more difficult to swap out the rails than I anticipated, but it can be done. It requires that you remove the celing/headliner to access the bolt nuts on the underside of the roof, which was somewhat difficult. you have to remvove all the ceiling handholds, the sunvisor and sunvisor clips, and the front light console in the middle. You also have to unclip the plastic sidewalls around the entire cabin including the back trunk/cargo area (you must be very careful as some of these contain airbags). Once you do all this the headliner can be pulled down a bit and you can have a few inches to reach the 8 underside roof rack bolt nuts. Once the ceiling/headliner was lowered, it was actually pretty easy to exchange the rails. Feel free to direct message me with any questions.
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HI, where did you bought the roof side rails and how much did you pay?
 
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DanielX said:
HI, where did you bought the roof side rails and how much did you pay?
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MVTTKIM said:
I'm actually looking to swap my adventure raised rails for the XLE/Hybrid low-pro ones to install the FrontRunner Slimline rack. Any takers to trade? :D Attaching photos of mine in black, along with what I'm trying to go for up top.
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I would live to, especially if I don't have to do anything, but it's not going to happen. 😢
 
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