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#22 ·
If you show you understand that you only get 2 (normal schedule) oil changes during your Toyota Care, then I have gotten an oil charge at 5k. I learned quick when I thought about asking for 5k oil change on my first Toyota Gen II but didn’t. I was low on annual miles so I forgot to get my 2nd oil change before the 2 years end (no wiggle room). So now I always get my first free oil change at 5k.
 
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Chazz8 said:
If you show you understand that you only get 2 (normal schedule) oil changes during your Toyota Care, then I have gotten an oil charge at 5k. I learned quick when I thought about asking for 5k oil change on my first Toyota Gen II but didn’t. I was low on annual miles so I forgot to get my 2nd oil change before the 2 years end (no wiggle room). So now I always get my first free oil change at 5k.
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The oil change should be at 10K miles or 1 year. If you don't drive much you should get oil change at 1 year and another right before 2year, that is what I did on my sienna (fist at ~7k and second at ~15k). Now maybe you only drive 5k in a year then yes do oil change then
 
#24 ·
Old school suggests 1st oil change at 5k miles because it removes tiny left over metal particles from the manufacturing process. Who knows if that's true.
10k miles between changes (or 1 year) seems a long time to wait.
For me, spending the extra $60 for an additional oil change is worth it.
I keep my cars for 300k miles. The extra $3,600 I spend over the life of the car seems less expensive than buying a new car every 100k miles.
But that's just me.
 
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jlawr1 said:
Old school suggests 1st oil change at 5k miles because it removes tiny left over metal particles from the manufacturing process. Who knows if that's true.
10k miles between changes (or 1 year) seems a long time to wait.
For me, spending the extra $60 for an additional oil change is worth it.
I keep my cars for 300k miles. The extra $3,600 I spend over the life of the car seems less expensive than buying a new car every 100k miles.
But that's just me.
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I currently have an early gen 4 rav4 that my wife will be getting. It’s coming up on 140,000 miles and I’ve only ever followed Toyota’s maintenance schedule of every 10,000 miles that’s what I plan on continuing to do with it. It’s still in excellent condition.
 
#26 ·
c7aea said:
I currently have an early gen 4 rav4 that my wife will be getting. It’s coming up on 140,000 miles and I’ve only ever followed Toyota’s maintenance schedule of every 10,000 miles that’s what I plan on continuing to do with it. It’s still in excellent condition.
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! wish you good luck for the next 160k miles. To each his own.
 
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c7aea said:
I currently have an early gen 4 rav4 that my wife will be getting. It’s coming up on 140,000 miles and I’ve only ever followed Toyota’s maintenance schedule of every 10,000 miles that’s what I plan on continuing to do with it. It’s still in excellent condition.
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Same here. Synthetic oil is very good these days and analysis shows it can easily handle 10K intervals, especially in a hybrid and even more so in a plug-in where the engine does not run as continuously as a normal engine.
 
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I have always done my first oil change at 1.5 K miles. Ensures that any machining debris and fine mettalic dust gets removed. I also know its not Toyota recommended as per the service manual but a cheap ~50 dollar insurance for a vehicle that is costs 35K. To be that is a no brainer. After that I will follow the 10K / 12 month regimen.

Done that on all my vehicles and haven't had any issues.

Maybe another thing to do is do the oil change yourself. That way you get to know your vehicle a little more intimately.
 
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Chazz8 said:
If you show you understand that you only get 2 (normal schedule) oil changes during your Toyota Care, then I have gotten an oil charge at 5k. I learned quick when I thought about asking for 5k oil change on my first Toyota Gen II but didn’t. I was low on annual miles so I forgot to get my 2nd oil change before the 2 years end (no wiggle room). So now I always get my first free oil change at 5k.
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I understood the drill, and get first oil change at 5K. The local dealer on my last PP told me I had a month after the 2 year deal to get the last one. So she talked me into getting another, that made 3 oil changes. I love it when the dealer doesn't pay attention.
 
#31 ·
With my 2016 CR-V I was told not to do the first change early (I think normal was 7,500mi) because of a special factory additive. I tend to mistrust dealership service and call BS on this but I was impressed by the service there and heard this from others too. I remember about this time seeing testing for penetrating additives that showed they extended protection for extreme conditions (so I did as advised) but haven't heard much about that since and I have seen nothing from Toyota to that effect.
 
#33 ·
RedElmo said:
Looks like we still have to take it in every 5000 miles or every 6 months for inspections.
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And free tire rotation (USA), fluid top off, and give dealer opportunity to find something for fix for $$.
 
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RedhotRAV said:
To summarize normal usage maintenance:

tire rotation 5,000 miles (this seems a little excessive with a 10K mile rotation more reasonable)
oil/filter - 10,000, miles
cabin air-filter 30,000 miles
engine air-filter 30,000 miles
vacuum under-seat charger vent 40,000 miles
replace coolant 100,000 miles and every 50,000 miles thereafter
replace sparkplugs 120,000 miles
brake fluid flush/check 2-years regardless of mileage
and "inspect" all of the usual items at each maintenance

This is the general industry schedule for these types of items.
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can anyone point me to the source of this information? I thought it might be in a manual but I have yet to find it.
 
#38 ·
CoffeeBear said:
so looks like oil change at 5K miles/6 months is possibly recommended (short trips when it's under 32F).
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Do you use the ICE for those short trips? If not, ignore that item. The maintenance schedule appears to ignore the fact that this is a plug-in hybrid. By the way, ToyotaCare include only 2 oil changes. If you fall under the "special operating conditions" for the more frequent oil changes, Toyota does not pay for them.
 
#39 ·
wscan said:
Do you use the ICE for those short trips? If not, ignore that item. The maintenance schedule appears to ignore the fact that this is a plug-in hybrid. By the way, ToyotaCare include only 2 oil changes. If you fall under the "special operating conditions" for the more frequent oil changes, Toyota does not pay for them.
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I'd probably need more than a month of historical data to say much about my likely usage patterns :p

I haven't quite settled on how much I'm going to try to manage when the ICE is running vs not. I may just let it do it's thing in auto most of the time or maybe I'll continue to be actively paying attention and trying to only use EV for really short trips and putting it in HV or charge mode for moderate/long trips. I dunno.
 
#40 ·
There is a flaw in all this: some things depend purely on time (fluids/belts that deteriorate with age), some depend on total mileage (tire rotations, wheel bearings, etc.), some depend on engine usage, and some depend on a combination of time and engine usage (oil changes, for example). The problem is that there is not obvious way to track engine usage.

If you drive mostly on EV mode, the only thing relevant for oil changes is time, If you drive mostly in HV mode then distance is the most important. They should make this "smart" with trackers for all three factors and a "maintenance" indicator that tells you what type of maintenance is due.
 
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