I was just looking over the proposed increase from the Federal Government for electric cars. There is a 2,500 dollar increase if the vehicle is built in the US and an additional 2,500 if it's built in a union shop.
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Where are the Rav4 Primes built?
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Look below in the "Recommended Reading" - thread "Will new proposed tax credit increase for RAV4 Prime?"
Also remember, nothing is final in legislation until it is signed into law and even then the effective date is important. In other words - it is a bit premature to take any actions on something that may or may not come into play.
Also remember, nothing is final in legislation until it is signed into law and even then the effective date is important. In other words - it is a bit premature to take any actions on something that may or may not come into play.
Specifically, Toyota Industries Corporation Yamaguchi-9-2 Nagakusamachi, Obu, Aichi 474-0052, Japan
Toyota will be in a better position to build BEVs and Plug-ins in the United States after $3.4 Billion buys you US battery production starting in 2025?
It’s very exiting to see Toyota move towards (are they there yet?) BEVs while still badmouthing them.
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It’s very exiting to see Toyota move towards (are they there yet?) BEVs while still badmouthing them.
Toyota Charges into Electrified Future in the U.S. with 10-year, $3.4 billion Investment | Corporate | Global Newsroom | Toyota Motor Corporation Official Global Website
Toyota announced today that it will invest approximately $3.4 billion (380 billion yen) in automotive batteries in the United States through 2030. Specifically, the investment is for developing and localizing automotive battery production, including those for battery electric vehicles, and is...
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The last I heard (and it can always change), the very small gas tank requirement has been removed from the bill as it stands now. Until a bill actually becomes law, it's anybody's guess.
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I would gladly give up the extra rebate in favor of the Rav4 Prime being built in Japan. Priceless lol.
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Volkswagen has no quality control. They are much less reliable than the average. Could just be lack of engineering or use of inferior parts.
But not the highly skilled workforce and six sigma quality standards. My Jetta built in Mexico long ago was a POS.
six sigma is about lean / just in time manufacturing - less inventory, more profit. That's the driver, quality control isn't the main driver of the process.
Funny, google of VW six sigma gave me this:
What Toyota Learned from VW's Manufacturing Process
Volkswagen's application of its MQB platform coincided with Toyota's first slump in 70 years. Here's how they responded to this manufacturing process.
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VW and Toyota have been trading off for #1 in the world lately. I too have heard many VW horror stories of electrical gremlins, leaking water pumps, etc. My VW was flawless for 5.5 yrs, 70k miles.
* shrug *
They must get it right enough of the time to sell so many millions of cars.
We currently own two Primes (prius and rav); I've only owned one VW - not a fanboi. It did feel like a much higher quality and contented car than others in the same price class when I bought it, though (at a large discount thanks to dieselgate).
What are the 6 Sigma principles?six sigma is about lean / just in time manufacturing - less inventory, more profit. That's the driver, quality control isn't the main driver of the process.
Funny, google of VW six sigma gave me this:
As pioneers of lean manufacturing, Toyota is known worldwide for their streamlined manufacturing process. But when the financial crisis of 2008 hit, the auto giant recorded their first loss ($1.7 billion) in their 75+ year history. During this time, Volkswagen Group’s began implementation of its MQB (Modular Transversal Toolkit) platform. For many in the industry, the German automaker’s simplified manufacturing process appeared set to overtake Toyota in production and sales. But after years of several years overcapacity and high fixed costs, Toyota’s engineers have unveiled a new process in the hopes of reestablishing themselves as the world’s lead manufacturing powerhouse.What Toyota Learned from VW's Manufacturing Process
Volkswagen's application of its MQB platform coincided with Toyota's first slump in 70 years. Here's how they responded to this manufacturing process.
VW and Toyota have been trading off for #1 in the world lately. I too have heard many VW horror stories of electrical gremlins, leaking water pumps, etc. My VW was flawless for 5.5 yrs, 70k miles.
* shrug *
They must get it right enough of the time to sell so many millions of cars.
We currently own two Primes (prius and rav); I've only owned one VW - not a fanboi. It did feel like a much higher quality and contented car than others in the same price class when I bought it, though (at a large discount thanks to dieselgate).
The core Six Sigma principles
- Always focus on the customer.
- Understand how work really happens.
- Make your processes flow smoothly.
- Reduce waste and concentrate on value.
- Stop defects through removing variation.
- Get buy-in from the team through collaboration.
- Make your efforts systematic and scientific.
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I have been extremely happy with the build quality of the Prime. Best car I have ever owned. Very solid and rattle free. Could not find one flaw! I have owned 35 cars.
The philosophy is to work intelligently and eliminate waste so that only minimal inventory is needed. This increases cash flow and reduces physical space needs, and makes it easier to deliver the required results smoothly through internal processes one piece at a time (single piece flow) to the end customer.
The system is also known by the more generic “lean manufacturing” and “just-in-time production” or “JIT Manufacturing.”
This system, more than any other aspect of the company, is responsible for having made Toyota the company it is today.
https://www.leansixsigmadefinition.com/glossary/toyota-production-system/
They simply were figuring out a better way to maximize profits, and that includes higher quality control, which helps the customer. It wasn't simply done because they "care" about the customer more than other companies.
Hah, if you'll throw a dieselgate stone (they got what they deserved on that) - how about Toyota's "unintended" acceleration? They are not perfect either. I'm just saying a Rav4 isn't the highest quality vehicle, and that's fine.
Toyota's hybrid synergy drive is excellent and I wish even more vehicles have utilized it over the last two decades.
The system is also known by the more generic “lean manufacturing” and “just-in-time production” or “JIT Manufacturing.”
This system, more than any other aspect of the company, is responsible for having made Toyota the company it is today.
https://www.leansixsigmadefinition.com/glossary/toyota-production-system/
They simply were figuring out a better way to maximize profits, and that includes higher quality control, which helps the customer. It wasn't simply done because they "care" about the customer more than other companies.
Hah, if you'll throw a dieselgate stone (they got what they deserved on that) - how about Toyota's "unintended" acceleration? They are not perfect either. I'm just saying a Rav4 isn't the highest quality vehicle, and that's fine.
Toyota's hybrid synergy drive is excellent and I wish even more vehicles have utilized it over the last two decades.
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And if they make a mistake it will be reliably repeated on each vehicle! 😁
35! Can you name them all?
@FredsToyota What is your Best Vehicle I’ve Ever Owned (BVIEO), and why (if not R4P)?
Wow - 35 cars is a lot - Bought my first in 1976 and only count 12 but I am cheap with cars and tend to keep them a long time:
1967 Rambler Rebel $1 Reverse only - sold for scrap for $50
1971 Cyclone GT 350C $50 Gold and keyed down both sides - sold for $750 after 4 years
1971 Mercury Capri $800 Silver oxidated horribly very touchy clutch - drove to college and back for 4 years and sold for about the same price.
1976 Bobcat Wagon gift Simulated Wood grain! - Dad gave me this last year of college when Capri became unreliable. Sold for next to nothing.
1987 Ranger 4X4 STX $13500 New - Drove for 215k miles and 34 years - sold for $2700 in 2021
1986 Mazda 626 $13000 New - Fell apart after 50k miles - traded it in for next to nothing in 1996?
1996 Dodge G. Caravan $16000 New - Totalled in 2002
2002 Honda Odyssey EX $28000 New - 190K miles so far
2009 Kia Spectra EX $13000 New - Road&Track said only thing good about car is cheap. Drove 115k miles without issue - sold for $3,700 in 2021
2013 RAV4 LE $18000 Bought in 2016 with 19k miles now has 115k
2016 CR-V AWD LX $24000 New - 45k miles - perfect until hit and run while parked repairs are estimated at $16k
2021 RAV4 Prime SE $41500 New - 1.7k miles
Edit: Oh yeah, My RAV4 Prime was built in Japan (wouldn't want to post off-topic)
1967 Rambler Rebel $1 Reverse only - sold for scrap for $50
1971 Cyclone GT 350C $50 Gold and keyed down both sides - sold for $750 after 4 years
1971 Mercury Capri $800 Silver oxidated horribly very touchy clutch - drove to college and back for 4 years and sold for about the same price.
1976 Bobcat Wagon gift Simulated Wood grain! - Dad gave me this last year of college when Capri became unreliable. Sold for next to nothing.
1987 Ranger 4X4 STX $13500 New - Drove for 215k miles and 34 years - sold for $2700 in 2021
1986 Mazda 626 $13000 New - Fell apart after 50k miles - traded it in for next to nothing in 1996?
1996 Dodge G. Caravan $16000 New - Totalled in 2002
2002 Honda Odyssey EX $28000 New - 190K miles so far
2009 Kia Spectra EX $13000 New - Road&Track said only thing good about car is cheap. Drove 115k miles without issue - sold for $3,700 in 2021
2013 RAV4 LE $18000 Bought in 2016 with 19k miles now has 115k
2016 CR-V AWD LX $24000 New - 45k miles - perfect until hit and run while parked repairs are estimated at $16k
2021 RAV4 Prime SE $41500 New - 1.7k miles
Edit: Oh yeah, My RAV4 Prime was built in Japan (wouldn't want to post off-topic)
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