I used to have beeping sounds & lights on in the corner of side mirrors when it detects that vehicles on either sides are too close, and also when i'm backing up it also beeps when someone or something is too close behind my car, these are very helpful warning /functions to me; I just realized there's no more beeping sounds, I checked all the settings, they were all ON, did anyone have these experience or any advice to bring these beeping sounds back? I still have the sounds on and steering wheel reminder when getting off lane. Thank you for your help.
No Beep sounds warning when vehicles are close to my sides
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I used to have beeping sounds & lights on in the corner of side mirrors when it detects that vehicles on either sides are too close, and also when i'm backing up it also beeps when someone or something is too close behind my car, these are very helpful warning /functions to me; I just realized there's no more beeping sounds, I checked all the settings, they were all ON, did anyone have these experience or any advice to bring these beeping sounds back? I still have the sounds on and steering wheel reminder when getting off lane. Thank you for your help.
Just checked, all Canadian trim levels have rear cross traffic alert. Should be the same for the US versions. But no audible alerts for blind spot monitoring on any trim. There’s an audible alert for lane trace/keep assist. Safety sense 2.5 and higher might have audible for BSM.
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I have a US gas model 2021 XLE. It definitely HAS the audible beep warning for the backing up rear cross traffic alert. It has saved my as* several times when I was parked at Walmart between two long trucks and could not see traffic coming behind me. It also beeps for pedestrians.
Rear cross has sound but blind spot never has sound, that would be annoying.
No sound, but the blind spot lights in the outside mirrors flash rapidly if I turn on the turn signal to change lanes and someone is beside me.
an audible alert for blind spot monitoring is very useful. It gains more attention that flashing indicator lights in the side view mirrors. Just like the flashing lights, it would only be active if you make on turn signal selection.
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Not if it only beeps if it detects someone in your blind spot AND you put your turn signal on or move towards that lane.
IMO, the lack of sound for BSM is a design defect. I was making a lane change a few days ago and fully expected the BSM to warn me of the car in my blind spot. Fortunately, I always turn my head to check the blind spot, but the lack of a BSM warning sound shocked me. Without the warning sound, BSM effectively doesn't exist.
When I'm switching lanes, having to focus my eyes on the small BSM light means I need to take my eyes off the road, which is a safety problem. The BSM light is only effective is the driver remembers each time to focus on the light, and if the onus is on the driver, then having a BSM light on the dashboard has the same effect.
Having an audible warning sound is the best solution and doesn't increase the bill of materials for the car. Alternatively, the BSM warning light needs to be much more noticeable, like bright LEDs around the entire border of the side mirror.
When I'm switching lanes, having to focus my eyes on the small BSM light means I need to take my eyes off the road, which is a safety problem. The BSM light is only effective is the driver remembers each time to focus on the light, and if the onus is on the driver, then having a BSM light on the dashboard has the same effect.
Having an audible warning sound is the best solution and doesn't increase the bill of materials for the car. Alternatively, the BSM warning light needs to be much more noticeable, like bright LEDs around the entire border of the side mirror.
Agree 1000%. Not having an audible alert on BSM on a car that literally NAGS you to death for other superficial reasons is a design flaw and a downgrade when coming from other cars that provide it.
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The part I bolded was very entertaining to read.
I'm glad BSM is silent. My previous vehicle would only make an audible alert in the worst condition. It allowed the driver to drive the vehicle but if we didn't act human it would finally interact. At least I think I remember it sounding once, maybe it never did.
Auto manufacturers really need to have a standard to follow because all manufactures making a different system than another allowing drivers to stop paying attention are causing issues.
As for visibility, that's a tough one for me. I was in a car with a large orange light on the interior door panel. Very obnoxious for both the passenger and driver. This was a rental vehicle so I was a passenger and a driver. In time we lean how to ignore the values.
My vision is not the same as it was 5 years ago, yet even in the new RAV4 I see the BSM alert in the left hand mirror when I'm driving straight. Even for me it is fine, but for the auto makers come up with a solution that is good everybody is going to be tough. I can't read the info on the cluster too well, I have my trip meter current and the trip numbers are blur, yet I can see the orange BSM just fine. How do they make a system that is suitable for we with declining eye sight and good peripheral vision but also good for person without good peripheral vision? Or vision that is suffering more than mine. I'm all for an audible alert as long as they offer a menu item to turn it off. Personally, the orange is more than enough -however I look where I'm going and don't wait to be told I shouldn't be running a car off the road, therefore an audible alert for me is not required since I'm lookin at the car!
I can understand the safety factor when the BSM is difficult to find or see and should be coupled with the audible warning, however that's also saying that a person isn't checking their mirror anyway and that person should in fact be audibly warned to be a human.
I really like reading threads like these because it really shows just how different we as humans are from other humans. What works for one doesn't work for another and we need to find ways for the auto makers to make us all human.
The closest they have come so far are self driving vehicles for humans to be transported without having to do things or interact. Once that is perfected, we'll all be in great shape.
Let me give you another example... in another car i own that has an audible BSM as well saved me a few times. Why? When initiating the turn AND VISUALLY CHECKING the lane was clear... started to change lanes, now looking ahead because i was in the clear when the audible alarm got my attention to a car that was flying down the left lane and had entered the space that i was using to turn into. At the very least i could be an option just like the myriads of others on the DIC.
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Why in the heck would you need to "focus" on the BSM light? There's absolutely nothing to read there. Either you instantly see the orange light, solid or flashing, or you don't. No "focusing" needed at all and, in fact, you should be picking it up easily in your peripheral vision, anyway. Pretty simple, really.
Besides, you should be checking your mirrors during a lane change anyway. Look at the mirror first as you turn your head to physically look over your shoulder. If you don't do that, learn to include the mirror in your scan pattern.
Picking up the BSM light in one's peripheral vision is required, and that's the tough part. Maybe in pitch darkness, the light is noticeable without focusing on it, but I never notice it. I doubt I'm one of the 1% that can't see the light. I'm guessing most people will not see this light if they're not focusing on it.
Exactly, I enable the turn signal, then check my side mirror, looking specifically for any car, which is why I don't notice anything else besides whether there's a car present. Then I look over my shoulder. The BSM needs to shout at me that there's a car in my blind spot because having a car in the blind spot that I missed occurs very rarely.
I think it is difficult to get this right. You want some sort of alert to help avoid a collision, but you want to avoid unnecessary alerts that desensitize you to the alert. Consider the case of a lane blockage ahead in your lane. You must change lanes, but there is a continuous line of vehicles in the next lane. You are left to use your lane change indicator and wait for a good Samaritan to let you merge. I don't think you want the continuous bell chime to let you know that there is still a vehicle in the lane beside you. At the same time, you want an alert when you are about to change lanes into a vehicle that you did not notice. I think this should be tied to the lane departure warning. You get a warning when you get too close to the lane marker unless you use your lane change indicator. Maybe you should get the same warning if you get too close to the lane marker with your lane change indicator on and a vehicle already occupies the lane beside you.
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Good point.
I can't figure out why there isn't a noise for when you leave the headlights on, but I'm annoyed that I am alerted when I exit the vehicle with my driver window open.... I'm literally looking through a hole in the door (window) yet the dash indicator tells me my window is open. I'm learning to ignore the beep when I open the door (the window is down every day right now) but am still unfamiliar with the warnings so I do look to make sure there isn't something else wrong.
I'd rather trade the window open alarm for the lights on alarm.
Alas, as humans we make complaints that the interior got soaked in a rain storm so we are reminded to raise our window -but the computer shuts off the headlights, therefore no need to be reminded they were left on. Until the follow day when you are a fool for driving with headlights on. hahaha
I am surprised because Toyota has more alerts and tones for safety than other vehicles I am in, why don't they include several alerts for BSM. I mean you can't forget to empty your rear seat but you don't get told to stay in your lane.
Therefore, we will be desensitized by the 'leaving your lane' warning in a matter of weeks of ownership.
What i did on the driver side where I have to really turn my head, Blind in left eye, was add one of the adjustable convex stick on mirrors to the regular mirror in the upper right corner. then adjust it to barely see the drivers side of the RAV and with the convex I can just glance over while still keeping most vision on the road in front of me. It works so well wife had me put one on her car.
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My 2020 XLE beeps with an in-dash text warning if I leave the headlights on.
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