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Our previous RAV4 hybrid did not have the auto power lift gate and this worked well for us. Our new RAV4 Prime has the auto lift gate. Does anyone know if there is a way to deactivate the auto lift gate? If yes, does it work as easily as if the car did not have this feature?
 
One of the dash settings turns on and off the powered lift gate feature.

But to your other question, no it's very difficult when it is deactivated, not at all like a car without it, I too wish I could turn it off and easily live with it off, but it doesn't work that way.
 
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One of the dash settings turns on and off the powered lift gate feature.

But to your other question, no it's very difficult when it is deactivated, not at all like a car without it, I too wish I could turn it off and easily live with it off, but it doesn't work that way.
Thanks a bunch, especially for information regarding your experience with the 2nd question.
 
A recent thread:

And my thread discussing manual operation (is also sort of discussed in the link I shared above)
 
So, when moving the kid back from college this summer, we crammed the R4P full to the brim with an entire dorm room worth of crap, only to find that we couldn't force the door closed against the mountain of soft, compressible clothes in the back because as soon as the automatic door hit resistance, it reversed course and opened. I supposed disabling the "PBD" would allow you to force the door closed in a situation like this?
 
I supposed disabling the "PBD" would allow you to force the door closed in a situation like this?
I disabled it one morning when on a trip so someone (that would be yours truly or his wife) wouldn't accidently open it with our Yakima bike rack installed. I was able to push it closed, but not against anything. It did not free itself from the drive mechanism so I was careful to not push it faster than the mechanism could cope with.
 
Huh. What I'm learning is that pretty much every bell and whistle has its downside. I'd have preferred a R4P that was $5k or $10k less but without an automatic back door, lane keep assist, and adaptive cruise control. Each one of these has proven to be, as my wife says, "actively useless."
 
My pickup had a soft open tailgate which I didn't care for. Nothing like releasing the tailgate and waiting 10 seconds for it to open so you can get in!
I found workarounds of course, but still feels weird to unlatch the gate in a store parking lot and have to stand around waiting.

Same with the hatch on the RAV. At least we can walk away as it is self-closing but still find myself doing the dance waiting for it to open.

I have only used the dash button a few times (at least I'm not trained to use it yet). I'll have a bike rack in a few days, hope I don't make any mistakes once it's connected.
I'd like one additional option, disable the interior switch but allow the electric motor to work if you use the button on the rear door. Then no accidents from the dash button and still maintain functionality.
 
At least we can walk away as it is self-closing
Yes - but if you lock the car with the fob while the rear door is still closing, the car doesn't beep. So you don't know if there is that's because the door hasn't closed yet or if some other door has accidentally been left open. I end up wasting precious seconds waiting for the read door to close before I can walk away. (Italicized to emphasize how much of a first world problem this is :).)
 
Yes - but if you lock the car with the fob while the rear door is still closing, the car doesn't beep. So you don't know if there is that's because the door hasn't closed yet or if some other door has accidentally been left open. I end up wasting precious seconds waiting for the read door to close before I can walk away. (Italicized to emphasize how much of a first world problem this is :).)
The car does beep once the rear door finished closing and the car is locked. In addition, if you listen for the clunk of the locks when you touch the lock area on the handle, this indicates there is no door left open (except the closing rear door). It will also give you the 5 second beep for an open door (not including the rear hatch that is closing) immediately upon pressing the handle to lock.
 
Yes - but if you lock the car with the fob while the rear door is still closing, the car doesn't beep. So you don't know if there is that's because the door hasn't closed yet or if some other door has accidentally been left open. I end up wasting precious seconds waiting for the read door to close before I can walk away. (Italicized to emphasize how much of a first world problem this is :).)
The car does beep once the rear door finished closing and the car is locked. In addition, if you listen for the clunk of the locks when you touch the lock area on the handle, this indicates there is no door left open (except the closing rear door). It will also give you the 5 second beep for an open door (not including the rear hatch that is closing) immediately upon pressing the handle to lock.
I'll have to test out these practices. It's not often I use the FOB to lock/unlock but good to know -I'll be less confused when I don't hear the beep.

I'm finally getting used to the acknowledgement delay of the beep when touching the door handle. Just about the time I'm used to this process is when I'll go and do something different.
I fully expect that when I go to ride my bicycle, the doors will be closed and locked while the hatch is open -I'll be getting ready to ride, helmet on, etc then close the hatch.
I can ride in a circle while waiting for the hatch to close and eventually hear the beep.
 
Huh. What I'm learning is that pretty much every bell and whistle has its downside. I'd have preferred a R4P that was $5k or $10k less but without an automatic back door, lane keep assist, and adaptive cruise control. Each one of these has proven to be, as my wife says, "actively useless."
I have a rav4 xle premium hybrid with the same options and love all three definitely when taking a trip out of town really love the adaptive cruise control. I guess different strokes for different folks.

Doug

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I used the lane centering/departure system once and wasn't happy. However, I was climbing from 2,000 to 5,000 with limited straight road segments.
I'll test it out some time (if/when I remember) on better conditions. I had it in my previous vehicle and kept it 'off' 99.2% of the time I owned the vehicle. Then I forgot I had it.

Radar/Adaptive cruise is the tied for best automated feature in my opinion.

My previous didn't have the function to stop the vehicle is necessary -I don't know if my RAV does (I assume so), however I neve go that slowly with cruise active so I'll probably never know. haha
 
One really nice feature of adaptive cruise is in stop and go traffic. Set the cruise and let the car move forward and stop as the car in front moves. The only needed human intervention is if the car comes to a complete stop for more than 3 seconds, the driver needs to press resume or the accelerator to start the car moving again.
 
I used the lane centering/departure system once and wasn't happy. However, I was climbing from 2,000 to 5,000 with limited straight road segments.
I'll test it out some time (if/when I remember) on better conditions. I had it in my previous vehicle and kept it 'off' 99.2% of the time I owned the vehicle. Then I forgot I had it.

Radar/Adaptive cruise is the tied for best automated feature in my opinion.

My previous didn't have the function to stop the vehicle is necessary -I don't know if my RAV does (I assume so), however I neve go that slowly with cruise active so I'll probably never know. haha
Lane centering would be useful if the system allowed the driver to lightly hold the wheel with one hand or two. As it is, it requires a fairly firm grip with both hands, firm enough to apply weight and downwards pressure to the wheel. If I’m doing that the auto centering is forcing itself against my hands and arms as it steers and is annoying to use. So I don’t. Some admit they jam a water bottle into the wheel to game the system but I’m not doing that, either.
Adaptive cruise works well and I like it, but never would use it in stop and go traffic.
 
One really nice feature of adaptive cruise is in stop and go traffic. Set the cruise and let the car move forward and stop as the car in front moves. The only needed human intervention is if the car comes to a complete stop for more than 3 seconds, the driver needs to press resume or the accelerator to start the car moving again.
Yes, this is a very nice feature - if only it wouldn't constantly turn the engine on unnecessarily. I use it during long trips when I typically use the engine on the highway. Otherwise, for my regular commute, which I can complete on battery alone, I use regular cruise control.

As for lane keep, I don't want to feel like I'm wrestling with the car. I know some people like it but I find it annoying.
 
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