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That display is quite different than on the 2022 XLE hybrid. Is that display standard on all 2023 hybrids? I like the way the temp and fuel gages appear, but the retro analog-like speedometer seems it would be hard to see your speed quickly, IMO.
I have the XSE Hybrid 2024 and there are 3 choices of display that you can mess with. They're not like the ones on these pics though.
 
I own a 2023 Hybrid Ltd, six months old. For my daily commute of 40 km (25 miles) round trip, mostly on the highway with some city driving, I'm getting only 14 kmpl (32 mpg). On longer highway trips, the highest I've achieved is 16 kmpl (39 mpg). In its early months, I used to get only 20-25 mpg.

Daily drive:
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Long drives:
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14 km/L means 7.1 L/100 km. And 16 km/L means 6.3 L/100 km. So, much better than what I'm getting since I got the car. Hopefully it'll improve in the coming weeks/months...
 
14 km/L means 7.1 L/100 km. And 16 km/L means 6.3 L/100 km. So, much better than what I'm getting since I got the car. Hopefully it'll improve in the coming weeks/months...
It will improve; I began with a modest 20-25 US mpg in the early months. I'm looking forward to enhancing it further as I drive more.
 
I was expecting 5.8-5.9 city. Average daily temp. is around 6c. Haven't heard of pulse and glide but I'll look into it.
I can attest that pulse and glide, along with occasional coasting, works. I gain a few mpg when I employ these techniques. I do this when I'm not in a hurry, but only on highways. I usually stay in the rightmost lane to avoid inconveniencing those behind me.
 
That display is quite different than on the 2022 XLE hybrid. Is that display standard on all 2023 hybrids? I like the way the temp and fuel gages appear, but the retro analog-like speedometer seems it would be hard to see your speed quickly, IMO.
I think it's the Asian version, not sure though. In other countries, the 2023 is different. There is an analog and a digital speedometer. I'm old school so I prefer the analog.
 
That display is quite different than on the 2022 XLE hybrid. Is that display standard on all 2023 hybrids? I like the way the temp and fuel gages appear, but the retro analog-like speedometer seems it would be hard to see your speed quickly, IMO.
This is how it looks like if digital. I actually prefer the classic speedometer look.

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Got 6.0L/100km. and 6.1 on first and second tank combined city/highway.
Third tank 6.5 mostly city driving. This seems high.
I am driving very conservatively in Normal Mode to get highest efficiency.
I calculate the fuel consumption independent of the vehicle MID.
Any comments??
Let it break-in too. How many KM?

I bought my car in Edmonton and drove it back to Toronto. The average consumption gets bette after each tank. My very first tank was 7.4l/100km with some battery usage as I did drive in charge mode at times and the tank was 98% highway. The second tank was 6.9 with 98% highway and no battery. Now I’ve got just over 4K on the ODO and the mileage is much better even without battery and just gas. In the R4P both the 2.5l and the MGs run more efficiently at lower speeds. My BMW F31 2l diesel AWD (240AWHP/420 AW FT-LB) will do higher speeds and get better mileage than my R4P on just ICE. But, with a full charge, mixed driving, stop and go, parking and driving situations, the R4P takes the lead. I use the battery the way I feel would be more beneficial and I can get as low as 4.1 to 5.1 in mixed driving situations. If I'm doing a trip longer than my battery range, I will leave home on EV, about a few minutes before getting on a 80 or 100 zone I'll change to ICE let it warm up in lower RPM, and drive on ICE (expect coasting/braking). I'll force the car to EV once coasting to exit to allow for maximum brake REGEN (paddle shifter), if you use max REGEN without putting the car into EV then evuntally the ICE will kick back in and raise the RPM to engine brake (I hate the feature). In the city or anywhere the speed limit is less than 80, I stay in EV mode. I am conservative with the HVAC as well. What I do however, is really heat up the cabin with remote start while the car is plugged in so it uses the hoses electricity to initially (take the most energy) heat up the car.
 
'23 after a year of ownership, yes, I can only get in the mid 30's mpg with the heat(s) on. Heated seats/steering wheel suck electricity also, so keep that in mind if the gas engine runs more than you remember in the summer.
Heated seats only draw about 100W-200W per seat on high. The heat pump draws about 700W-800W on and off with HVAC set to 20c AUTO with 4c ambient temps.
 
Are you the real owner? Show us how you derived 24MPG? Or one post and done?
am the real owner. I just bought it new. I am a very gentle driver. No rev-ups or crazy speed. Just normal city-highway driving. I’ve used the normal mode most of the time and very briefly the ECO mode. I understand your passion for RAV4 and your suspicion of my post. I chose this RAV4 objectively, but so far, it has failed to live up to its promises. It sounds like I posted on a wrong forum for possible suggestions.
 
am the real owner. I just bought it new. I am a very gentle driver. No rev-ups or crazy speed. Just normal city-highway driving. I’ve used the normal mode most of the time and very briefly the ECO mode. I understand your passion for RAV4 and your suspicion of my post. I chose this RAV4 objectively, but so far, it has failed to live up to its promises. It sounds like I posted on a wrong forum for possible suggestions.
What is the temperature at your location? Do you do a lot of short drives? Cold temperatures and short drives will significantly reduce your MPG. Glad you came back for the second post. I was getting 25 MPG when the outside temperature was in the -5 to 5F range. Do you park your car outside?
 
What is the temperature at your location? Do you do a lot of short drives? Cold temperatures and short drives will significantly reduce your MPG. Glad you came back for the second post. I was getting 25 MPG when the outside temperature was in the -5 to 5F range. Do you park your car outside?
The temperature was -5 F and sometimes lower than that. But isn’t 24MPG too low compared to promised 39? It’s a brand new car after all. The temperatures are back to 30s now, so I will keep an eye out for any improvements.
 
The temperature was -5 F and sometimes lower than that. But isn’t 24MPG too low compared to promised 39? It’s a brand new car after all. The temperatures are back to 30s now, so I will keep an eye out for any improvements.
Reminder - the 'promised 39' from car sticker comes from an EPA test that is often 'ideal' conditions.

EPA testing does not drive a car like how most car drivers would drive nor in different weather conditions.

The Toyota Hybrid system also has a tendency to run the engine to get it to an optimal running condition when you start it up.

From my experience with my Rav4 Hybrid, on cold days, when I start it up, the engine turns over and refuses to go into EV mode.

It will even stay on while at some stops, where it should shut down, because it is still warming up the system.

Take a moment to just have your energy showing on the Infotainment system and you will see the engine in use, even though you are not applying power to the wheels and the battery may have more than sufficient capacity. On warmer days, the engine warmup won't be as long and you will see no engine running at stops a lot sooner than during cold days.

And lastly, note your travel distance. If you are only doing short trips, your MPG will DEFINITELY go down from the 'promised 39'.

My Rav4 Hybrid's MPG went down to 30ish MPG because my commute was 2 miles. Not long enough or far enough to allow the engine to get going and be more efficient.
 
Reminder - the 'promised 39' from car sticker comes from an EPA test that is often 'ideal' conditions.

EPA testing does not drive a car like how most car drivers would drive nor in different weather conditions.

The Toyota Hybrid system also has a tendency to run the engine to get it to an optimal running condition when you start it up.

From my experience with my Rav4 Hybrid, on cold days, when I start it up, the engine turns over and refuses to go into EV mode.

It will even stay on while at some stops, where it should shut down, because it is still warming up the system.

Take a moment to just have your energy showing on the Infotainment system and you will see the engine in use, even though you are not applying power to the wheels and the battery may have more than sufficient capacity. On warmer days, the engine warmup won't be as long and you will see no engine running at stops a lot sooner than during cold days.

And lastly, note your travel distance. If you are only doing short trips, your MPG will DEFINITELY go down from the 'promised 39'.

My Rav4 Hybrid's MPG went down to 30ish MPG because my commute was 2 miles. Not long enough or far enough to allow the engine to get going and be more efficient.
Thank you for explaining this. I really like this car, and I want it to work out. I will post updates on the MPG in about a week. Hopefully it’ll get better since temperatures are gonna be around 30s.

You are right about not using the battery in cold weather. For the first time today, I saw 80% EV usage on dash. It never went past 20% during the cold days.
 
Thank you for explaining this. I really like this car, and I want it to work out. I will post updates on the MPG in about a week. Hopefully it’ll get better since temperatures are gonna be around 30s.

You are right about not using the battery in cold weather. For the first time today, I saw 80% EV usage on dash. It never went past 20% during the cold days.
Once the temperature goes above 50F, you will see 35-40 MPG. Sub zero is a MPG killer.
 
Thank you for explaining this. I really like this car, and I want it to work out. I will post updates on the MPG in about a week. Hopefully it’ll get better since temperatures are gonna be around 30s.

You are right about not using the battery in cold weather. For the first time today, I saw 80% EV usage on dash. It never went past 20% during the cold days.
Congratulations on your 2024 hybrid. My wife is enjoying her 2024 hybrid as well. If a certain forum member (i.e., @Tazio Nuvolari) starts bad mouthing our hybrids just ignore him. The rats in his garage don’t like him so they decided to make a home inside his cabin filteration system. I personally like him as an internet friend but I think he is extremely lonely. He is a secret hybrid admirer but has a hard time admitting it. Enjoy! We have 3 gen 4.5 RAV4 hybrid in our family without any issues.
 
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