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I just took my vehicle in for a 25,000 mile service (wheels rotated), and paid for the alignment $159.95. (last time alignment was done 11 months ago)
I have recently changed the cabin and engine filter myself. Next service is 30,000 miles. The dealership says my charges will be Fuel Air Induction "cleaning" $189.95, Balance tires $35, Rear Differential service $150. Does this look correct? Anything else i should be aware of?
You don’t need to spend your money on alignment only if you’re having a string problem and gear box oil is only 60,000 and transmission should be done every 30,000 then your car is going to be fine
 
I thought the R4H and R4P are CVTs and the rear axles are the electric motors, so no gears/traditional differential as with the ICE variants...do they mean changing the fluid in the motor?

Separately, dealers are getting slimey around me too... jjust the other day, I brought my R4 in for the 15k service and they were also pushing an alignment, which I refused...I'm not even sure they did the rest of the inspections...the main thing at 15k was the oil change, and it didn't look like they even did that as the dipstick handle still had dust on it, and the oil at the tip looked darker than I would have expected for fresh oil...though it was a little higher than before.
YES, there is a rear differential and it does need service. The rear differential should have the fluid replaced at 60,000 miles, especially if you carry heavy loads or tow a trailer. Uses Toyota Genuine ATF WS fluid. Same as the ECVT transmission.
 
I recently posted a similar post, and my costs included yours plus replace transaxle fluid. There’s no transaxle in a hybrid, plus brake fluid replacement etc. I declined all these extras, which finally brought the 30k mile check down to basic oil and filter, rotate tires, changle out cabin and engine air filters. So I did my own. With all the added ”suggested” maintenance, my bill would have been over 1,700. The Toyota maintenance schedule is what I follow. I bought a brake fluid moisture tester from amazon for 13 dollars. Checked my vehicles and bikes, and an old can that had been sitting unsealed but closed for about 2 years. The old can was still within limits, but the vehicles and bikes all indicated zero moisture. I suppose it depends on where you live, but use your best judgement on all this. At least you didn’t get the transaxle fluid change! Plus I had already told my representative that mine was a hybrid. And had him email me the list of items and costs. Buyer beware!
There IS a rear differential that should have the fluid inspected at 30,000 miles and replaced at 60,000 miles.
It takes Toyota Genuine ATF WS fluid, the same fluid as the ECTV transmission.
 
I just took my vehicle in for a 25,000 mile service (wheels rotated), and paid for the alignment $159.95. (last time alignment was done 11 months ago)
I have recently changed the cabin and engine filter myself. Next service is 30,000 miles. The dealership says my charges will be Fuel Air Induction "cleaning" $189.95, Balance tires $35, Rear Differential service $150. Does this look correct? Anything else i should be aware of?
Everyone always attacking the dealers
Yes your car does not need those extra services. But will it benefit absolutely. Also it depends on where you live. For example cars in the northern are exposed to climate change which means so are the fluids in the vehicle also fuel induction service not needed. But vehicle can definitely benefit from the results.
Tire balance. Only if vibration while driving is present. And as far as the alignmentz
I just took my vehicle in for a 25,000 mile service (wheels rotated), and paid for the alignment $159.95. (last time alignment was done 11 months ago)
I have recently changed the cabin and engine filter myself. Next service is 30,000 miles. The dealership says my charges will be Fuel Air Induction "cleaning" $189.95, Balance tires $35, Rear Differential service $150. Does this look correct? Anything else i should be aware of?
Everyone always attacking the dealers

Yes your car does not need those extra services. But will it benefit, absolutely . Also it depends on where you live. For example cars in the northern are exposed to climate change which means so are the fluids in the vehicle also fuel induction service not needed. But vehicle can definitely benefit from the results.

Tire balance. Only if vibration while driving is present. And as far as the alignment most dealers have a machine that check the alignment upon arrival. Again it depends where you live. I live in NY a lot of potholes so I get my alignment after winter. Also I advise everyone to check their HV battery filter they tend to get dirty every 30k miles specially if you have pets in the car. Cars are like people
Do we need extra vitamins to live no as long as we eat healthy we are ok but does it hurt to take extra. I don’t think so. Good luck
 
Everyone always attacking the dealers
Yes your car does not need those extra services. But will it benefit absolutely. Also it depends on where you live. For example cars in the northern are exposed to climate change which means so are the fluids in the vehicle also fuel induction service not needed. But vehicle can definitely benefit from the results.
Tire balance. Only if vibration while driving is present. And as far as the alignmentz

Everyone always attacking the dealers

Yes your car does not need those extra services. But will it benefit, absolutely . Also it depends on where you live. For example cars in the northern are exposed to climate change which means so are the fluids in the vehicle also fuel induction service not needed. But vehicle can definitely benefit from the results.

Tire balance. Only if vibration while driving is present. And as far as the alignment most dealers have a machine that check the alignment upon arrival. Again it depends where you live. I live in NY a lot of potholes so I get my alignment after winter. Also I advise everyone to check their HV battery filter they tend to get dirty every 30k miles specially if you have pets in the car. Cars are like people
Do we need extra vitamins to live no as long as we eat healthy we are ok but does it hurt to take extra. I don’t think so. Good luck
That HV filter is only a screen, purchased a new one from eBay for $4. When I saw how clean it was, I went through the pushups of vacuuming and hosing it down. Didn't even need to do this after 30,000 miles!
 
I just took my vehicle in for a 25,000 mile service (wheels rotated), and paid for the alignment $159.95. (last time alignment was done 11 months ago)
I have recently changed the cabin and engine filter myself. Next service is 30,000 miles. The dealership says my charges will be Fuel Air Induction "cleaning" $189.95, Balance tires $35, Rear Differential service $150. Does this look correct? Anything else i should be aware of?
if you live in Colorado .... the land of pot holes... an alignment is absolutely necessary!
That HV filter is only a screen, purchased a new one from eBay for $4. When I saw how clean it was, I went through the pushups of vacuuming and hosing it down. Didn't even need to do this after 30,000 miles!
just put in clean oil only
 
Since this post has turned at some level into a discussion about alignment, I’ll add my two cents. There is really only a few reasons for an alignment. The first is AFTER repairs have been made to the vehicle that now allows for an alignment to correct for replaced parts which were throwing the alignment off to begin with(the damaged parts and then the replacement parts). The second reason is if the alignment was off from the factory. Yes, this can happen. So, overall, an alignment is required after damage to a front end occurs and the damaged parts are replaced. Only then is an alignment required. If you do an alignment after front end damage and no parts replacement, the alignment will not hold as damaged parts will continue to change such that the alignment will not hold, so you’re wasting your money. The same holds for worn parts. So, to be clear, an alignment will correct for worn parts, BUT the parts will continue to wear and the alignment will not hold. An alignment can sometimes correct for damaged parts BUT the parts are still damaged and I sure as hell wouldn’t drive a vehicle with damaged steering / suspension parts as they could fail at anytime. Two other points, first, in some rare cases new rims where wheel offset changes may require adjustments to alignment to correct for the new wheel offsets. The other point? Is very important, and is likely the cause for many non required alignment adjustments. Anytime you are having your alignment checked PRIOR to the check or even more important prior to the alignment (due to parts / damage being fixed) make absolutely sure your tire pressure is set exactly as specified on your drivers side door frame(and that the tire have even tread wear across all 4 tires, the tires should be a matched set). I’ve seen many incorrect adjustments to alignment made when tire pressure isn’t correct / balanced (different tires / bad tire wear, etc). Yes, incorrect tire pressure can throw off your alignment / and the way your vehicle tracks. So, to summarize, alignment checks are fine as long as who ever is doing them knows what they are doing, their equipment is set up correctly and is calibrated. If you don’t know this for sure then the alignment check is best skipped and alignments are truly only needed to correct for worn out or damaged parts that have been replaced.
 
I thought i would chime in as i have had 2 alignments on my 23. I have read that the sometimes the factory alignment... by the time shipping etc to your dealer, and you getting it on the road can be off. @ my 5K oil change my tires were feathering. After they rotated them my Rav sounded like a Big 4x4 rolling down the freeway. I had the dealer do the first complementary alignment (Allowed if under 12K miles) and they reported the fatory alignment to was set at .03 and +.04.
Toyota set the toe at .15 and .15. I drove off the lot and leaving the parking lot the sterring wanted to fall to the left and right like dropping off a curb. I drove it for a couple thousand miles to see if it would settle in, but my mileage dropped over 10% at freewy speeds. I returnd it to Toyota and they tried toset it at .12 x .12. I told them NO! it drove straight at .03 and .04+. I want it at no more than .06 x .06. They argued dealer spec., and i reminded them that dealer spec is actually dealer repair tollerance center. with the reduced mileage and me putting my foot down they set it at .06 x .06, and i have been happy with the results. I will ask for .03-.04 If i need an alignment for road damage at some point and think i will get a little more MPG. I did not pay for alignments.
BTW i have the 19" rims and factory tires... the 18's with slimmer tires may need a tiny bit more toe than .03.
i think i have 50% wear now at 25k miles.
 
Since this post has turned at some level into a discussion about alignment, I’ll add my two cents. There is really only a few reasons for an alignment. The first is AFTER repairs have been made to the vehicle that now allows for an alignment to correct for replaced parts which were throwing the alignment off to begin with(the damaged parts and then the replacement parts). The second reason is if the alignment was off from the factory. Yes, this can happen. So, overall, an alignment is required after damage to a front end occurs and the damaged parts are replaced. Only then is an alignment required. If you do an alignment after front end damage and no parts replacement, the alignment will not hold as damaged parts will continue to change such that the alignment will not hold, so you’re wasting your money. The same holds for worn parts. So, to be clear, an alignment will correct for worn parts, BUT the parts will continue to wear and the alignment will not hold. An alignment can sometimes correct for damaged parts BUT the parts are still damaged and I sure as hell wouldn’t drive a vehicle with damaged steering / suspension parts as they could fail at anytime. Two other points, first, in some rare cases new rims where wheel offset changes may require adjustments to alignment to correct for the new wheel offsets. The other point? Is very important, and is likely the cause for many non required alignment adjustments. Anytime you are having your alignment checked PRIOR to the check or even more important prior to the alignment (due to parts / damage being fixed) make absolutely sure your tire pressure is set exactly as specified on your drivers side door frame(and that the tire have even tread wear across all 4 tires, the tires should be a matched set). I’ve seen many incorrect adjustments to alignment made when tire pressure isn’t correct / balanced (different tires / bad tire wear, etc). Yes, incorrect tire pressure can throw off your alignment / and the way your vehicle tracks. So, to summarize, alignment checks are fine as long as who ever is doing them knows what they are doing, their equipment is set up correctly and is calibrated. If you don’t know this for sure then the alignment check is best skipped and alignments are truly only needed to correct for worn out or damaged parts that have been replaced.
You are right about everything except if you get new tires or the same size rims and your car tires were already wea correctly then you don’t need an alignment because you are wasting your money but…. If you have wear on your tires or yes factory also and if it starts to drift to one side and your air pressure is correct then you will need a alignment
 
I just took my vehicle in for a 25,000 mile service (wheels rotated), and paid for the alignment $159.95. (last time alignment was done 11 months ago)
I have recently changed the cabin and engine filter myself. Next service is 30,000 miles. The dealership says my charges will be Fuel Air Induction "cleaning" $189.95, Balance tires $35, Rear Differential service $150. Does this look correct? Anything else i should be aware of?
As others have pointed out - you're overdoing it, and the dealer is taking you. Unless your car is pulling one way or the other or have uneven wear patterns, there is 0 reason to do an alignment. Rear differential? at 25K? Go read your owner's manual on maintenance - that is the only thing you need.
 
But will it benefit absolutely. Also it depends on where you live. For example cars in the northern are exposed to climate change which means so are the fluids in the vehicle also fuel induction service not needed. But vehicle can definitely benefit from the results.
Hi I agree with Robert to stick with what’s listed in the owners manual. I’m concerned with need for a new wheel alignment after a recent one 11 months ago and tire balance. I have a 2022 and so far it has been running straight with no need for an alignment or tire balancing.
Just because a car drives straight does not mean the alignment is ok the rear could be out of adjustment. I could warranty to that if you got the alignment checked it would be out
Great video from the Car Care Nut about Wheel Alignment and when you need one.
Car Care Nut Wheel Alignment

I took and automotive course in college decades ago. The instructor had ben an automotive shop Manager for many years at various dealerships. He said that if you are driving on a flat smooth road like a freeway, with constant speed and it is a fairly calm day, take you hands off the steering wheel and the car doesn't pull to ether side. You don't need to have a wheel alignment.
The instructor obviously didn’t know what he was talking about a car can go straight and still need an alignment.
 
The vehicle maintenance schedule should be in owners manual and is available on Toyotas web site, not dealers. Anything other than what is listed on schedule is a complete waste of money. Your being fleeced! You tell them exactly what you want done according to schedule and what it cost before giving them the keys. Personally I would bring it elsewhere.
Dealers don’t just do work on cars without approval you can just decline the recommendations it sounds like people here in the forums need to find better dealers
 
Just because a car drives straight does not mean the alignment is ok the rear could be out of adjustment. I could warranty to that if you got the alignment checked it would be out

The instructor obviously didn’t know what he was talking about a car can go straight and still need an alignment.
But just so you understand if your car is going straight and you need a alignment then your car tires would start to wear so that is another sign and also when you go to Toyota for service you will drive over a computer alignment machine to be sure that you would diffenaly would need one and then Toyota will tell you that you should get one
 
But just so you understand if your car is going straight and you need a alignment then your car tires would start to wear so that is another sign and also when you go to Toyota for service you will drive over a computer alignment machine to be sure that you would diffenaly would need one and then Toyota will tell you that you should get one
Toyota "here" always tries to tell you you need a alignment every 20K miles. as well as 6 other non required services. I had 2 alignments by 17K and at 20 they said i should get one. Obviously they do not look up past service. do not trust dealer service people.
 
I just took my vehicle in for a 25,000 mile service (wheels rotated), and paid for the alignment $159.95. (last time alignment was done 11 months ago)
I have recently changed the cabin and engine filter myself. Next service is 30,000 miles. The dealership says my charges will be Fuel Air Induction "cleaning" $189.95, Balance tires $35, Rear Differential service $150. Does this look correct? Anything else i should be aware of?
Mine's a Prime but I just took it in for 25K service (at 23,500 miles but it had been 6 months since the last one). I got a good report card. Looks like the dealer pretty much stuck to the recommended items.
 

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But just so you understand if your car is going straight and you need a alignment then your car tires would start to wear so that is another sign and also when you go to Toyota for service you will drive over a computer alignment machine to be sure that you would diffenaly would need one and then Toyota will tell you that you should get one
My 2017 has never had an alignment, no excess tire wear or pulling.
 
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