How fast will a 2024 hybrid run?
2024 hybrid max speed?
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How fast will a 2024 hybrid run?
Love my’24 RAV4 Hybrid XLE and love fast cars, but I would feel nervous driving the RAV4 approaching the triple-digits.
During any unexpected evasive maneuvers the higher center of gravity, steering & suspension geometry designed for conventional speeds would make for quite a handful.
I wonder how many times a RAV4 would roll over at 115 mph?
During any unexpected evasive maneuvers the higher center of gravity, steering & suspension geometry designed for conventional speeds would make for quite a handful.
I wonder how many times a RAV4 would roll over at 115 mph?
I can attest that the gas model 5th gen is quite stable and safe feeling at 100 MPH. 90 MPH is enjoyable and effortless. There are several German Autobahn videos of 5th gen hybrids running flat out. The only issues are cross winds, rain or ice, quality of the pavement, and law enforcement.
And get arrested in some
Not really.
Toyota actually sponsored RAV4s in American high speed rallies. Millen won the class championship in a bubble butt, under powered 4th gen RAV--our 5th gens have a better handling TNGA platform and a better and more powerful ICE.
Actually, one of the main reasons that a RAV4 would do poorly is aerodynamics, even on a straight, level, smooth road with no wind. Why? At higher speeds, any car with that shape, the air flow will lift the front of the car right off the ground, just like an airplane wing. Ever try steering a car if the front wheels are off the ground? I have: I had a '67 Camaro SS that did that. Had plenty of power to go fast, but over 100 MPH, the car got really light, the steering got really loose, and scary!
Air dams below help a tiny bit, but not enough. That is why all the really fast cars such as Porsche, Corvette, Ferrari, etc have a steep slope to the front hood. Keeps the front on the ground.
Aerodynamics is a peculiar science. Shapes of cars you would think would "lift like an airplane" at 100 MPH and above sometimes have the opposite effect and press the car down on the road for more stability. Cars have to be tested in wind tunnels and on the test track to see what they will do. There are a bunch of much FASTER cars than the RAV4 which have aerodynamics that on first sight are WORSE than the 5th gen. The very fast Dodge Hellcat is no gem as far as looks go. The new Audis and BMWs are really no more sleek than the RAV4. The Bugatti is downright strange and has that retro horseshoe radiator that must play hell with aerodynamics.
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Comments like that have been made before in this forum. It is ALWAYS amusing when clueless posters say such things which are NOT true. The RAV4 is not just a family car for soccer moms. Toyota did sponsor the 4th generation RAV4 in the US ARA Rally Series and it won its class. The rules for the World Rally Championship (WRC) are currently in a state of flux and one proposal is to change the cars to mid size SUVs from the minis now running--Toyota has won for several years with the small YARIS. It will be using the RAV4 if the rules DO change in 2026-2027. Here is the 4th gen RAV4 with the stock engine and trans running the Mt. Hood Rally.
Needless to say, our 5th generation gas models and hybrids can easily blow away a 4th gen! Our ICE has a lot more horsepower. Our handling is better. Our aerodynamics are better. It's a shame Toyota now focuses on the WRC and no longer competes in the US in the ARA. Our 5th gen RAV WOULD be successful in rally racing.
I am not a racecar driver, an engineer, or a mechanic. However, I am definitively confident -- almost certain, no, actually certain -- the best, safest, and most prudent advice is...do not go 100 mph or try to find out what the top speed is.
That said, aside from speed and steering, you also have to worry about tires. That's why they are called accidents...because nobody planned on them happening. Stock, off the showroom floor, these cars are not designed to go that fast. You can tell me about speed ratings on tires, stability, aerodynamics, everything -- it is simply not what the vehicle is designed for. Show me a Porsche 911 and we are having a completely different conversation.
That said, aside from speed and steering, you also have to worry about tires. That's why they are called accidents...because nobody planned on them happening. Stock, off the showroom floor, these cars are not designed to go that fast. You can tell me about speed ratings on tires, stability, aerodynamics, everything -- it is simply not what the vehicle is designed for. Show me a Porsche 911 and we are having a completely different conversation.
That's the information that everyone needs to keep in mind. A regular car that "can" go at 100++ mph is almost certainly not intended to do so. Apart from very rapid wear and tear there is also a disproportionately high risk of hurting yourself and others.
I agree the OEM Dunlops and the other cheap tires installed at the factory are not safe for any high speed running. The Falken WildPeak A/T Trails I and MANY others use are rated to 130 MPH. Pirelli Scorpions and many other aftermarket tires used by posters in this forum are similarly speed rated and safe.
Depends somewhat on the size. Virtually all OEM tires have an H speed rating (130 MPH). You never see an S speed rating on tires anymore.
The Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive tires seem to be quite strange in speed ratings. The size I got, 235/60R18 is V speed rated (149 MPH), but most sizes, including the OEM size, 225/60R18 is W speed rated (168 MPH). Go figure.
Oh please! You might not realize that the 5th gen RAV is sold worldwide. In Europe owners of RAV4s cruise on a daily basis at 85+ MPH on autobahns and autostrada and may very well go up to 100MPH as the mood takes them. In Nevada and other places in the US it is OK to drive at high speeds. The RAV is safe for such speeds with the proper tires. Toyota well knew these cars would be driven fast and designed them to do it. In the Owners Manual they mention driving "in a spirited manner." Nixon instituted the 55 MPH speed limit during the Arab Fuel Crisis. Since then a lot of Americans have become very timid about speed. I agree that many Americans should not drive fast--they are untrained in performance driving, physically disabled, distracted, and uncoordinated. That is not the car's fault. The 5th gen is safe to drive at high speeds.
Nothing is safe to drive at high speeds. The kinetic energy of a moving object is proportional to the square of its velocity, Ek = 1/2 x M x V^2. Twice the speed translates into four times the kinetic energy and four times the braking distance. Driver training and good tires + brake force distribution system will help of course, but the braking distance is going to be a lot longer at higher speeds than at moderate speeds.
You sound like my late, dear old mom... or a silly TV safety commercial ("your brain on drugs".) I agree that distracted, timid soccer moms and drug and booze addled fools, and texting teens and the vision and reflex impaired or otherwise uncoordinated should NOT ever drive above 55 MPH. Don't inflict your "goody two shoes" attitude and fear of speed on the rest of us. The 5th gen RAV is SAFE up to its maximum speed with the proper tires on a good road surface in good, dry weather conditions. Depending on WHERE you live if it MAY be legal to drive it at its top speed (Germany, Italy, Nevada etc.) Obviously you should NOT do that on congested urban freeways or surface streets.
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