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#23 ·
WillRav4Tacos said:
Very interesting. The fonts on the cluster are much different than on my factory 2023 one.
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II talk with the guy yesterday on FB! And that is because it is not a OEM ODO, it is a chinese version for Toyota Wildlander, so the conectors fit but he had to modify some things to screw it propertly... and yes it comes with the ODO button...and OEM toyota frame. I saw time ago it in aliexpress for about 700/800 dollars, but only for Wildlander, for the RAV4 have to wait... so in the end we have to wait to see if the 12" oem speedometer can really be attached
 
#24 ·
Maburo13 said:
II talk with the guy yesterday on FB! And that is because it is not a OEM ODO, it is a chinese version for Toyota Wildlander, so the conectors fit but he had to modify some things to screw it propertly... and yes it comes with the ODO button...and OEM toyota frame. I saw time ago it in aliexpress for about 700/800 dollars, but only for Wildlander, for the RAV4 have to wait... so in the end we have to wait to see if the 12" oem speedometer can really be attached
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That's pretty cool to see a mod like that hit the market, the 12.3 inch cluster is pretty cool once you get used to it and get it customized the way you like it.
 
#30 ·
so im really curious if anyone has done this too. im in Australia, I currently have the 8 inch screen, and the local car wrecker has the 10 inch screen for sale. I looked at all the plugs and they all match up (maybe missing a few wires) but in terms of all the plugs its all like for like. So Im curious if the 10 inch screen will turn on and would the navigation work on it.
 
#31 ·
CavalryBlueRAV4 said:
I have 2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid SE (So 8" infotainment Screen + Non JBL)

Since 2023 parting out market is opening up out there, I've been browsing.

Found few different models of Infotainment systems.

North American
8" basic model: 86140-0R630 [Denso]

10.5" Non-JBL (TRD only): 86140-0R710 [Denso]

10.5" JBL (XLE Premium/XSE/Limited): 86140-0R640 [Denso]

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Japanese
8" basic model 86140-42L60 [Denso]
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European
10.5" Non-JBL 86140-42L00 [Panasonic]


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American 86140-0R710 (Non-JBL 10"5 from RAV4 TRD) / Europeans 86140-42L00 (Non-JBL 10.5" from Israel RAV4 Hybrid)

Does any one know what those connectors do? I assume wireless module? Maybe US one is for AT&T one, and European is whatever they use.


I don't know why they made the connector different. It's frustrating. I found European one for really good price... Damn.

Do youguys think the head unit will work without those circled connector plugged? Anyone has any clue what that port is for?
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Hi,

Ik ben met deze materie bezig geweest omdat ik graag weer middengolf ontvangst zou willen hebben. Maar allereerst, VERGEET het maar dat je zomaar eventjes je head unit zonder veel problemen te krijgen kan vervangen voor een andere, óók OEM-Toyota head units. VERGEET alles wat voor de USA markt bestemd is als je buiten de USA bent. Het gaat niet, of slechts ten dele, werken. Omgekeerd geldt ook. Dus een EU head unit werkt niet goed in de USA, het radiofrequentieraster op FM en AM neemt andere stappen waardoor de radio “naast” de zendfrequentie afstemt. Ook hebben wij hier in Europa NIETS aan Sirius. Het is een satelliet systeem voor radio en de satelliet kan hier niet worden ontvangen. Dus, een head unit voor USA-Toyota’s is incompatibel met de situatie in de rest van de wereld. Punt uit.

Maar dan. Zelfs als je je head unit, in mijn geval de non-AM Panasonic built 86140-42L00 uit een 2023 RAV4, voor een in de 2024 Toyota RAV4 gemonteerde versie wilt uitwisselen, dan is dat een hele uitdaging. Allereerst wijken de kabelbomen af, immers, er zit geen AM in de 86140-42L00. Dus wijkt de stekkers aan de kabelboom af. Ten tweede weet je niet of er andere onderdelen ontbreken die nodig zijn. Toyota geeft GEEN ENKELE informatie.

Conclusie. Ik ben nu al bijna twee jaar bezig met deze materie en ben geen barst opgeschoten. Het is veel eenvoudiger een after market head unit te installeren dan om een andere OEM-Toyota head unit proberen te plaatsen. Immers, bij een after market product krijg je allerlei verloopkabels erbij maar zélfs dan is het een gok. En een heel dure gok! Ik ben bezig geweest met een head unit uit een Australische RAV4 schadeauto uit 2023. Helemaal hetzelfde, één knops 10’5 scherm maar mét AM. Dus ook DAB+ (wat mij trouwens gestolen kan worden maar dat terzijde) en een aftemraster wat helemaal gelijk is aan het onze. De radio zal dus correct afstemmen op zowel FM als AM. AM loopt in Australië zelfs verder door naar 1700 kHz trouwens. Hoe dan ook, dié head unit moest maar liefst 2500 Australische dollars kosten! Plus dan nog de kosten voor een, of de, kabelbo(o)m(en).

Dus, bezint een ge begint. Ga nooit met bestaande kabelbomen prutsen, dus nooit in knippen of aftakkingen maken. Gaat het fout, dan kun je fluiten naar je garantie en je kan allerlei storingsmeldingen krijgen. Hoe rot ik het ook vind, ik ben er maar mee opgehouden, knarsetandend, dat wel.
 
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CavalryBlueRAV4 said:
I have 2023 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid SE (So 8" infotainment Screen + Non JBL)

Since 2023 parting out market is opening up out there, I've been browsing.

Found few different models of Infotainment systems.

North American
8" basic model: 86140-0R630 [Denso]

10.5" Non-JBL (TRD only): 86140-0R710 [Denso]

10.5" JBL (XLE Premium/XSE/Limited): 86140-0R640 [Denso]

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Japanese
8" basic model 86140-42L60 [Denso]
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European
10.5" Non-JBL 86140-42L00 [Panasonic]


View attachment 203574
American 86140-0R710 (Non-JBL 10"5 from RAV4 TRD) / Europeans 86140-42L00 (Non-JBL 10.5" from Israel RAV4 Hybrid)

Does any one know what those connectors do? I assume wireless module? Maybe US one is for AT&T one, and European is whatever they use.


I don't know why they made the connector different. It's frustrating. I found European one for really good price... Damn.

Do youguys think the head unit will work without those circled connector plugged? Anyone has any clue what that port is for?
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Hi. FORGET head units meant for non-USA/Canada Toyotas! The 86140-42L00 lacks Sirius, has NO AM reception and has a DAB+ digital receiver (signals on the UHF band) that is absolutely useless in North America. I’ve been busy getting my 86140-42L00 replaced by an Australian RAV4 head unit that still has AM and is fully compatible for use in Europe. Remember, frequency steps on AM and FM and anywhere else on the globe are DIFFERENT from the frequeny steps in the Americas! That means that an American 86140-XXXXX won’t be able to tune in accurately on AM and FM stations in Europe. And, consequently, the other way around as well. And to make things worse, cable harnesses may differ as well. So, knowing this, you might get a replacement 10’5 head unit for your car from a totalled USA-specs car. Physically they all will fit but make sure the plugs in your RAV4 will fit the replacement head unit. Be sure to get an original OEM part. Aftermarket stuff will ALWAYS be a compromise as it is possible (likely rather) some things will not work. Let alone the unknown reputation of non-OEM products that MIGHT fit. And last but not least, do not alter any original wire harnesses in attempts to make an aftermarket head unit fit the car. If your car is still under warranty, any changes that are not authorised by Toyota will invalidate warrenty, period. No excuses.

Head units these days are very much integrated in a car’s systems. Professional car audio retailers won’t replace modern head units, even a replacement by units from reputable brands like Alpine, because it is not sure everything will work. Camera systems are notoriously known for not or only partly functioning and over the air updates may no longer function. There you go…..As much as I hate having to live with my existing head unit, I gave up this battle. Only because you will get more problems than you have now with your existing unit. Bye, Willem, The Netherlands.

If you need more info, you can mail me: ke7vj39 at kpnmail.nl
 
#34 ·
Maburo13 said:
What should that button do? I had never seen any here where I live (Spain). Apparently the speedometer only has the same 2 connectors as the 7" mixed speedometer, so I decided to try it. When It arrive from Japan I will try it and tell you.
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I did the 12.3 speedometer conversion using a custom harness. The odometer button also works.
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Discussion starter · #36 ·
wim.16711759 said:
Hi. FORGET head units meant for non-USA/Canada Toyotas! The 86140-42L00 lacks Sirius, has NO AM reception and has a DAB+ digital receiver (signals on the UHF band) that is absolutely useless in North America. I’ve been busy getting my 86140-42L00 replaced by an Australian RAV4 head unit that still has AM and is fully compatible for use in Europe. Remember, frequency steps on AM and FM and anywhere else on the globe are DIFFERENT from the frequeny steps in the Americas! That means that an American 86140-XXXXX won’t be able to tune in accurately on AM and FM stations in Europe. And, consequently, the other way around as well. And to make things worse, cable harnesses may differ as well. So, knowing this, you might get a replacement 10’5 head unit for your car from a totalled USA-specs car. Physically they all will fit but make sure the plugs in your RAV4 will fit the replacement head unit. Be sure to get an original OEM part. Aftermarket stuff will ALWAYS be a compromise as it is possible (likely rather) some things will not work. Let alone the unknown reputation of non-OEM products that MIGHT fit. And last but not least, do not alter any original wire harnesses in attempts to make an aftermarket head unit fit the car. If your car is still under warranty, any changes that are not authorised by Toyota will invalidate warrenty, period. No excuses.

Head units these days are very much integrated in a car’s systems. Professional car audio retailers won’t replace modern head units, even a replacement by units from reputable brands like Alpine, because it is not sure everything will work. Camera systems are notoriously known for not or only partly functioning and over the air updates may no longer function. There you go…..As much as I hate having to live with my existing head unit, I gave up this battle. Only because you will get more problems than you have now with your existing unit. Bye, Willem, The Netherlands.

If you need more info, you can mail me: ke7vj39 at kpnmail.nl
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This is totally true.


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I got European 10.5 headunit to my Japanese RAV4. FInally got it to work.
Radio and Map doesn't work. (As you see on the photo above, it's all black) - Doesn't let me set up driver profile.

So I'm stuck with some white lady's Toyota profile who used 10.5 screen previously.

However, I only use Apple Car Play, which works flawlessly. So no biggie for me.

Honestly, 80% of us will use Apple Carplay/Android auto, it works.

So if you have 23+ Rav4 just buy whatever 10.5 unit you can get, and slap it on! It's plug and play!
 
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