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yes, I remember the Porsche 914 was sold as a volkswagen in Europe initially, if I am not mistaken
Yes, the 4 cylinder 914 was made by VW and has a VW engine (411 engine). But I have the six cylinder. The body for the six, when it came off the Karman body line, was shipped to Porsche where a 911 running gear (911T engine and front suspension) was installed.
 
This thread has gone off topic. Not saying right or wrong, other forum's admin would have closed this and delete the off topic ones.
Not a problem, IMO, as long as the discussion is somewhat related to the thread title -- 0 to 60 times, i.e. fast cars. Another moderator may disagree.
 
it’s supposed to indicate that you are still driving in an eco friendly way even if you aren’t in eco mode.
I understand that. But if I have ECO turned off I may not want or need to view how efficiently I might be driving, even if it's presented in a friendly manner. In other vehicles (Toyota included) the efficiency progress bar is not visible if I turn ECO off.
 
The RAV4, any model, has never been designed as a sports car. That said, it has quite enough umph to be a rather fast SUV. The plugin hybrid in particular, followed by the hybrid AWD that has a slight advantage over the FWD due to the second motor. My suggestion: buy a Porsche or Audi that will break after let’s say a year or two, maybe even sooner.
My rav4 prime is hella fast. Not as fast as a tesla, but it is by far the quickest car I've ever owned. And that includes the acura rsx type s I had many moons ago. Additionally, the heavy battery lowers the center of gravity, making it hug the corners better than any suv has a right to do. I love this car. But yeah... It's no prosch 😉
 
My rav4 prime is hella fast. Not as fast as a tesla, but it is by far the quickest car I've ever owned. And that includes the acura rsx type s I had many moons ago. Additionally, the heavy battery lowers the center of gravity, making it hug the corners better than any suv has a right to do. I love this car. But yeah... It's no prosch 😉
We considered a Macan prior to buying our Rav, and there is no comparison between the two. A Macan has grip levels equivalent to high end sports cars from 15 years ago. The ultimate cornering grip is easily 20% better than any Rav model, and the composure at that higher cornering limit is much better and more sophisticated in behavior than the Rav. It’s why it costs about twice as much.

A lot of that has to do with tire technology. Porsches use summer oriented tires that, if put onto a Rav, would greatly increase cornering grip, but the Rav’s suspension is already at its limit with it’s current tire technology so it would be quite a handful with even more grip.
 
The RAV4, any model, has never been designed as a sports car. That said, it has quite enough umph to be a rather fast SUV. The plugin hybrid in particular, followed by the hybrid AWD that has a slight advantage over the FWD due to the second motor. My suggestion: buy a Porsche or Audi that will break after let’s say a year or two, maybe even sooner.
the 2024 RAV4 Limited is an Oompa Lumpa. Slow as snail, no oomph. It struggles going up hills, sometimes, even sputters.
 
the 2024 RAV4 Limited is an Oompa Lumpa. Slow as snail, no oomph. It struggles going up hills, sometimes, even sputters. Piece of crap.
Maybe, when compared to a Lambo Countach or Dodge Hellcat...but that's apples to oranges. When you compare a gas model 5th gen RAV to its similar competitors (non-turbo Mazda CX5, Honda CRV, Ford Bronco Sport & Escape (3 cyl)) it is much faster. I have had no trouble going up the steepest grades in the Cascade Mountains at 80 MPH or more in my XLE AWD. If yours "sputters" maybe you should stick in a bottle of Techron and use Top Tier gas.
 
I have had no trouble going up the steepest grades in the Cascade Mountains at 80 MPH or more in my XLE AWD.
I, too, had no problem going over Donner pass in California when returning from my son's wedding. Was able to easily keep up with traffic going the speed limit plus. Yes, I have the hybrid, but I'm sure that the HV battery was well depleted and running only on the ICE for that long of a grade.
 
Use gasoline Octane booster, like 3 bottles, then the Rav does mountain hills like its flying on jet engines.
I have no issues with 2.5L engine, the RAV goes up and down hills, just not as blazingly snappy like more expensive vehicles.
 
Maybe, when compared to a Lambo Countach or Dodge Hellcat...but that's apples to oranges. When you compare a gas model 5th gen RAV to its similar competitors (non-turbo Mazda CX5, Honda CRV, Ford Bronco Sport & Escape (3 cyl)) it is much faster. I have had no trouble going up the steepest grades in the Cascade Mountains at 80 MPH or more in my XLE AWD. If yours "sputters" maybe you should stick in a bottle of Techron and use Top Tier gas.
The gas RAV4, CRV, CX-5 are pretty much the same. Would not say much faster. Unless meant vs the Fords??

0 to 60 mph times
  • Mazda CX-5: The base engine accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in 8.1 seconds, while the turbocharged engine accelerates in 6.2 seconds

  • Honda CR-V: The 190-hp CR-V accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in 8.1 seconds

  • Toyota RAV4: The gas-only model accelerates from 0 to 60 mph in 8.0–8.3 seconds, while the hybrid model accelerates in 7.3–7.4 seconds
 
The gas RAV4, CRV, CX-5 are pretty much the same. Would not say much faster. Unless meant vs the Fords??
Different sources quote different 0-60 times. Here are some I saved over the years. That 8 sec 0-60 MPH time for the gas 5th gen RAV seems a lot faster than many other comparable SUVs to me. I add the Subaru Crosstrek and other Subaru models and several GM and Buicks and Nissan SUVs, VW and Jeeps as being obviously slower than than a gas 5th gen.
 

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Different sources quote different 0-60 times. Here are some I saved over the years. That 8 sec 0-60 MPH time for the gas 5th gen RAV seems a lot faster than many other comparable SUVs to me. I add the Subaru Crosstrek and other Subaru models and several GM and Buicks and Nissan SUVs, VW and Jeeps as being obviously slower than than a gas 5th gen.
My comment was for your initial comment saying RAV4 ICE much faster than non-turbo Mazda CX5, Honda CRV, Ford Bronco Sport & Escape (3 cyl)

Crosstrek is more comparable to Corolla Sport and adding more car models now is neither here nor there as I was just commenting on your post :

When you compare a gas model 5th gen RAV to its similar competitors (non-turbo Mazda CX5, Honda CRV, Ford Bronco Sport & Escape (3 cyl)) it is much faster.

I suggest that the base versions of RAV4, CRV, CX-5 are pretty much the same and having driven all of them would pick the CX-5 as the better gas SUV although not as spacious as the other two.
 
having driven all of them would pick the CX-5 as the better gas SUV
To each his own. The 5th gen RAV actually pulled more Gs on the skid pad than the CX5 so despite some reviewers subjective claims that the Mazda handles better, the RAV is objectively better handling. I prefer the RAV which puts out more horsepower and is faster 0-60 MPH and 1/4 mile than the non-turbo Mazda. I also like the RAV body styling better than the Mazda.
 
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