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Hi there,

This is my first post on this forum.

I have just purchased a 2011 RAV4 Cruiser yesterday, I'm loving the car but I'm having a couple of issues.
I have bought the car from a dealership (I'm in Australia) and I had it inspected by an independent mechanic who gave me a very favorable report about the car. However upon picking up the vehicle the sales guy was only able to give me one key (the master key) as the previous owner did not give them any other...

I guess it can happen with a used car so fair enough I'll have to get a spare key done, I found a few threads about how to get it done, so hopefully I can manage to not spend too much on this...

More problematic though is that I was unable to find the toolkit in the left compartment of the cargo area or anywhere else, which means there is no key either to unlock the spare wheel. The lock works with a normal key similar to this : TOYOTA SPARE WHEEL LOCK & KEY PRADO RAV4 SUV 4WD NEW GENUINE 6905960220 EXP POST | eBay
The master key doesn't work to open this lock (it is even mentionned in the manual).
I do have the jack and the lug wrench in the right compartment but the left compartment only has the module for the reverse parking sensors. I also did try to dig really deep and all around the compartment as I have read on these forums that the toolkit sometimes falls down the bottom but I really couldn't find anything.

I'm going to check if the dealer I bought the car from (not a Toyota dealer) would have kept the toolkit or if they would be able to contact the previous owner to find out if they would know anything about it, but if they are indeed lost, what are my options with this lock? Can it be easily picked / removed by a Toyota dealer or any tyre specialist shop or even a locksmith? Would they charge me a fortune? Would there be a risk of damaging the spare wheel in doing that? If I do manage to get it removed is it too risky to not install a new lock or is it recommended for me to install a new one? I know the spare wheel cover can only be removed with the rear door open even though it's only made of plastic...
Also am I missing any other important tools from that toolkit or are the jack and wrench all I would realistically need?

I guess I should have been more careful when I first inspected the car but I would have expected the independent mechanic to be checking on things like this.

Thanks in advance for your insight!
 

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Use Techstream to program another key. You need to buy a mini vci cable from some place like Ebay.
As for the wheel lock that is something the dealer may have the key code for. We don't have wheel locks on the spare wheels in NA models that look like that.
If you can't get a tool kit maybe check a junk yard for a used one or the dealer if you want something new.
 

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I second the Techstream way to make a spare.

For the weird spare wheel lock... maybe you or a locksmith can pick that lock open?
 

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Ok thanks for the responses I think I'll go the Techstream way for the spare master key.

As for the spare wheel lock I'm just gonna check with a local locksmith and see how it goes.

Cheers!
 

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Ok thanks for the responses I think I'll go the Techstream way for the spare master key.

As for the spare wheel lock I'm just gonna check with a local locksmith and see how it goes.

Cheers!
I would call the Toyota dealer up for a wheel lock key. Ask if they can make a new key. Dealers usually register all keys and assign them a key cutting code. This is how they cut your keys if they are damaged or missing. This way you can still reuse the wheel lock.
 

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I would call the Toyota dealer up for a wheel lock key. Ask if they can make a new key. Dealers usually register all keys and assign them a key cutting code. This is how they cut your keys if they are damaged or missing. This way you can still reuse the wheel lock.
So I called up the dealer, took them a while to figure it out but they said they can get another key made for $88 AUD... I'm guessing a locksmith wouldn't be too far from that price over here so I think I'll go ahead and go this way, at least I won't have to lose the lock.

Thanks for the advice.
 

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So I called up the dealer, took them a while to figure it out but they said they can get another key made for $88 AUD... I'm guessing a locksmith wouldn't be too far from that price over here so I think I'll go ahead and go this way, at least I won't have to lose the lock.

Thanks for the advice.
Yes that lock helps protect the wheel. Never seen a wheel lock with a key. You may want to duplicated the key so you have a spare if it is not too pricey.
 

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Just a bit of update.

So in the end instead of just sending me a key specifically for my car's spare wheel as I had asked and assumed they were sending me, the dealership actually sent me a whole new spare wheel lock with 2 matching keys... So I went to a locksmith to try and get him to pick the existing lock and he managed to open it with my master key although it did take him a good 10 minutes to do so... I have checked the owners manual again and it did mention in an addendum that the master key supposedly could not open the spare wheel lock...
So anyway I ended up paying $88 while my main key could do it all along although it did require some manipulation to get it open, so at least now I won't risk damaging the main key if I have to use the spare wheel and I already got two keys for it...

I've been having another issue with the car though. Last sunday after a 2 hour drive on the motorway, the car started checking and idling at very low revs at a traffic light before stalling. At that point both the check engine light and slip indicator light turned on (not flashing, just steady). My Rav is a 2wd only so there is no 4wd light. The weird idling and shaking kept going for about 30 min after I stopped on the side of the road for about 15-20 min and then started driving again and it stopped doing it and drove normally but the lights stayed on since. So now the car is driving normally as far as I can tell although sometimes it does take an extra second for the engine to start up.

I took it to a local mechanic on tuesday who ran a diagnostic on it and it showed up with 3 "system too lean" faults and he assumed as the car is closed to a 150000 kms it needs a new fuel filter but he didn't really try to investigate much and wants to charge me $350 for it... He reset the lights but they came back on just an hour later.

However after reading online about this issue I realised it could be quite a few different things like o2 sensors etc. I have cleaned the MAF sensor with a designated cleaner yesterday even though it didn't look dirty. It made the car start quicker, but only for a short while. I've noticed when idling at stops the revs are more stable in neutral than in drive gear where they sometimes go up and down. The fuel cap doesn't seem to be loose either.

Also I did replace the air filter just after buying the car as was recommended by the mechanic who inspected it prior to purchase so I'm not sure if that could be related?
 

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Actually I came across this thread : Toyota RAV4 Questions - The check engine, VSC, and 4WD lights keep coming on at the same time.... - CarGurus

Which mentionned that the rubber hose that connects into the air manifold tends to come off easily after opening the air filter box so I decided to inspect it this morning and indeed it had come off completely... There's nothing to really keep it tight in there to be honest.

I'm surprised I didn't notice it before and even more surprised the mechanic didn't see it at all...
So I disconnected the battery for 10 min and when I started the car the lights didn't show up again. I'll have to check if that changes after driving the car a bit more but hopefully that was the only issue...

 
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