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2019 Rav4 DCM deactivate procedure

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What I found out about the Data Communication Module (DCM) on my RAV4 is that even after you opt out of any cellular services such as Entune and the SOS feature your car continues to send information to Toyota via the built-in cellular connection. They claim that you "may" receive a discount on your insurance (if you enroll for monitored driving reporting) based on your driving habits, but chances are you will be penalized for driving like I do! Just another reason to drop off the radar screen. So I made it a priority to disable such communication.

Disclaimer: You will lose some convenience and safety features by doing this modification you assume all responsibility for any damages, legal liability, inconvenience or injury that may occur.

In summary I pulled the fuse on the DCM and removed the internal battery. Presumably the battery is there to power the unit if you crash and destroy your 12 volt battery and want to send an SOS.

You can probably avoid the work I did on my car by removing the DCM fuse (shown below) and waiting for the internal DCM battery to die, but I have not tested this approach. The battery is pretty big for a cell phone so it may take quite a while. Verify that DCM is offline by the DCM status shown in the last photo below. Also be wary of using bluetooth as I mention below.

The DCM unit is located behind the HVAC controls on the dash. I made the job way more complicated by removing the center console which was not needed. The HVAC controls pop out using the plastic trim tools that are needed for all modern cars, apparently.

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Pulling out the HVAC controls and other components. I took out the radio/screen which was not necessary.

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The HVAC controls knobs look like this.

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The DCM unit is the lower shiny rectangle. Find two hex bolts (10mm?) that hold the unit in. Remove the DCM and disconnect the wires and antenna.


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The DCM unit with the battery cover off. I removed the battery on my car and replaced the unit.

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Location of the DCM fuse in the footwell along with all the other colored fuses. It is well marked on the fuse box cover, I think it was 7.5 Amps. I took way more plastic off than was necessary (no manual used).

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Once things are put back together you will see this display showing that there is no cell connection indicated by the image of a cell phone with the diagonal line through it.

One caveat, if you use bluetooth to connect your phone to the car DCM will use your phone to connect to the mother ship and presumably send your data. I only use my iPhone cable to connect to the car which does not have this effect.

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No sim...you need a DCM programmed for your region. At least there is a simple solution for those feeling the need to deactivate DCM...just move overseas!;)
Well, have you ever been doing such a reprogramming before? Can you give me hints
Thank you brother. I successfully removed my DCM today. I had to take the center console all apart but it was worth it. These videos helped.


Thank you brother. I successfully removed my DCM today. I had to take the center console all apart but it was worth it. These videos helped.


We’re you able to solve the issue with the right speaker? I’d love to do this, but I don’t want to lose audio
What I found out about the Data Communication Module (DCM) on my RAV4 is that even after you opt out of any cellular services such as Entune and the SOS feature your car continues to send information to Toyota via the built-in cellular connection. They claim that you "may" receive a discount on your insurance (if you enroll for monitored driving reporting) based on your driving habits, but chances are you will be penalized for driving like I do! Just another reason to drop off the radar screen. So I made it a priority to disable such communication.

Disclaimer: You will lose some convenience and safety features by doing this modification you assume all responsibility for any damages, legal liability, inconvenience or injury that may occur.

In summary I pulled the fuse on the DCM and removed the internal battery. Presumably the battery is there to power the unit if you crash and destroy your 12 volt battery and want to send an SOS.

You can probably avoid the work I did on my car by removing the DCM fuse (shown below) and waiting for the internal DCM battery to die, but I have not tested this approach. The battery is pretty big for a cell phone so it may take quite a while. Verify that DCM is offline by the DCM status shown in the last photo below. Also be wary of using bluetooth as I mention below.

The DCM unit is located behind the HVAC controls on the dash. I made the job way more complicated by removing the center console which was not needed. The HVAC controls pop out using the plastic trim tools that are needed for all modern cars, apparently.

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Pulling out the HVAC controls and other components. I took out the radio/screen which was not necessary.

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The HVAC controls knobs look like this.

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The DCM unit is the lower shiny rectangle. Find two hex bolts (10mm?) that hold the unit in. Remove the DCM and disconnect the wires and antenna.


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The DCM unit with the battery cover off. I removed the battery on my car and replaced the unit.

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Location of the DCM fuse in the footwell along with all the other colored fuses. It is well marked on the fuse box cover, I think it was 7.5 Amps. I took way more plastic off than was necessary (no manual used).

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Once things are put back together you will see this display showing that there is no cell connection indicated by the image of a cell phone with the diagonal line through it.

One caveat, if you use bluetooth to connect your phone to the car DCM will use your phone to connect to the mother ship and presumably send your data. I only use my iPhone cable to connect to the car which does not have this effect.
Remind me NOT to buy a used car that you had!
I should have said, this is why I never buy used cars.
I should have said, this is why I never buy used cars.
I hope you do all your own work and don't trust the near-minimum wage techs. Its especially funny coming from someone who can't even figure out how to edit a post
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FWIW: Restoring RH audio with DCM disconnected could be accomplished by jumpering between pins 2&5 and 3&6 of G9 DCM connector...
The connector on my 2021 rav4 DCM looks different. Do you know which wires I should jump to get the speaker working? or where I can get a wiring diagram that would tell me?
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Right speakers can be fixed in 2021 by shorting two pins. See the attached image.

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Right speakers can be fixed in 2021 by shorting two pins. See the attached image.

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Can you please elaborate on how this was done? Wire gauge, what connectors did you use, etc. It appears this is the required solution to allow power to get to the right-front speaker without the DCM in place, but just curious for all of the specific steps to do this.
Can you please elaborate on how this was done? Wire gauge, what connectors did you use, etc. It appears this is the required solution to allow power to get to the right-front speaker without the DCM in place, but just curious for all of the specific steps to do this.
Yeah I don't have the knowledge required to pick the correct wire gauge. I just shoved some wires into the two pin holes and called it a day.
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Contributing some photos from my DCM / aftermarket amp troubleshooting. Was really hoping to have that same 4-pin speaker connector shown above but my 2019 had the big multi-connector. Jumping it did pass the audio through. Just means you can't bypass the DCM without fully removing it in these older models I guess. HU showed a "no mic" warning with the DCM disconnected as well.
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I feel its a problem that they are using my cell connection to push data. I am guessing in many of the EULA that you sign, click or approve that its in there they have the right to push that data. Which is why EULA's need simplified.

I wear a tin hat so this was very interesting to me because its getting ridiculous how much of our personal data we just give away. And yeah, you can get a discount by putting ANOTHER monitoring device in your car that reports back home. SMH.

I wonder how we can see what we "sacrifice" by doing this? I know opting out removes remote start and my wife says thats a non-issue. Obviously anything using the cell connection (S.O.S, and...?) will be disabled.
So, if you sign away your rights when you buy the car, how can they legally continue to collect data once you sell it to someone else?
Right speakers can be fixed in 2021 by shorting two pins. See the attached image.

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I wonder if the mic can be shorted as well. In the PDF you're referencing there it looks like you might be able to bridge pins 6 and 16 (MCI+/MCO+) and pins 7 and 32 (MCI-/MCO-) of the large connector.

There's also pin 5 which looks like it provides 4-6v power to the mic. Not sure why the mic even needs to be powered, but you might be able to get this from pin 15 (USBV) not sure if that voltage is provided by the ECU or the DCM, the pdf doesn't clarify that.

Also does anyone know where to get a female connector to match with that large connector? I'd rather not just jam wires into the holes because there's a chance they could fall out and then my speaker and mic are dead until I have time to pull the hvac panel.
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All this trouble just to keep our privacy. Crazy. I definitely don't want anyone else using my devices for their purposes. Maybe this Braxman guy is not so far off after all Braxman:
What I found out about the Data Communication Module (DCM) on my RAV4 is that even after you opt out of any cellular services such as Entune and the SOS feature your car continues to send information to Toyota via the built-in cellular connection. They claim that you "may" receive a discount on your insurance (if you enroll for monitored driving reporting) based on your driving habits, but chances are you will be penalized for driving like I do! Just another reason to drop off the radar screen. So I made it a priority to disable such communication.

Disclaimer: You will lose some convenience and safety features by doing this modification you assume all responsibility for any damages, legal liability, inconvenience or injury that may occur.

In summary I pulled the fuse on the DCM and removed the internal battery. Presumably the battery is there to power the unit if you crash and destroy your 12 volt battery and want to send an SOS.

You can probably avoid the work I did on my car by removing the DCM fuse (shown below) and waiting for the internal DCM battery to die, but I have not tested this approach. The battery is pretty big for a cell phone so it may take quite a while. Verify that DCM is offline by the DCM status shown in the last photo below. Also be wary of using bluetooth as I mention below.

The DCM unit is located behind the HVAC controls on the dash. I made the job way more complicated by removing the center console which was not needed. The HVAC controls pop out using the plastic trim tools that are needed for all modern cars, apparently.

View attachment 150083

Pulling out the HVAC controls and other components. I took out the radio/screen which was not necessary.

View attachment 150082

The HVAC controls knobs look like this.

View attachment 150086

The DCM unit is the lower shiny rectangle. Find two hex bolts (10mm?) that hold the unit in. Remove the DCM and disconnect the wires and antenna.


View attachment 150087

The DCM unit with the battery cover off. I removed the battery on my car and replaced the unit.

View attachment 150089

Location of the DCM fuse in the footwell along with all the other colored fuses. It is well marked on the fuse box cover, I think it was 7.5 Amps. I took way more plastic off than was necessary (no manual used).

View attachment 150090

Once things are put back together you will see this display showing that there is no cell connection indicated by the image of a cell phone with the diagonal line through it.

One caveat, if you use bluetooth to connect your phone to the car DCM will use your phone to connect to the mother ship and presumably send your data. I only use my iPhone cable to connect to the car which does not have this effect.
After removing the battery from the DCM I started my RAV4 and things worked as usual. This morning I removed the dcm fuse. Afterwards my car wouldn’t start. Then I replaced it and still my car won’t start. With no auto know how I probably shouldn’t have undertaken this task. I currently am unable to start the vehicle. Does anyone have any tips.
Tell us more. Does your instrument panel light up? Do lights, accessories, like audio work? Do you get the ready light or is all dead?
I can confirm that by removing the DCM fuse, the vehicle won't start. 2022 Rav4 hybrid.

And it will start again after inserting the fuse back.


FWIW: Restoring RH audio with DCM disconnected could be accomplished by jumpering between pins 2&5 and 3&6 of G9 DCM connector...
Does it control the microphone of the vehicle?
Thanks for all the good information. Has anyone been able to successfully disconnect the DCM on a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid using the method from the original post? I understand we can no longer simply disconnect the fuse, but I would would love to still try remove the DCM and battery completely (Or at least disconnect them). However I'm a major novice and don't want to start and accidentally break something.
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HU showed a "no mic" warning with the DCM disconnected as well.
Hello everyone! I've got same issue and mic didn't work (Rav4 2019 w/manual SOS switch). Shorting 18-34 and 19-35 pins solved that. Now I have no message "no mic" and Bluetooth option is available now, I can connect new devices and play music via Bluetooth. But Mic doesn't works, callers can not hear me. In the Service Menu under the "Function Check-Microphone check" microphone doesn't pass the test (it does not work). It seems like signal was been amplified in the DCM (not sure about that). Has anyone solved that? Could you please help? I really get used to handsfree talking using car's audio.

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