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:D Can't wait to see some specs on this vehicle! To be able to afford something like this my ship (aircraft carrier) would have to come in soon.
 

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As a "THRILLED" 2016 RAV4 Hybrid Limited owner and disenchanted follower of the (two) threads of "gas filling problem 2019 / possibly 2020", I am now an enthusiastic follower of this thread. Looking forward to the "reveal" at the LA Show on 11/20...!
 

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Just purchased an XLE Premium gasser. I take comfort knowing I most likely can’t afford this PHEV. Maybe when this one is paid off I’ll upgrade the ‘13 CX-5 Sport to whatever is the latest and greatest at that time.

I want to own the CX-5 for at least 10 years. With 7 years and 73k miles of trouble free ownership under our belt, I think that’s a reasonable timeline lol! Our newly acquired RAV4 should be just broken in by that time.
 

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And no loss of cargo space!

Powering the RAV4 Prime is the same 2.5-liter Atkinson-cycle four-cylinder engine found in the RAV4 Hybrid, in both cases making 176 hp (131 kW). However, the Prime uses a new high-capacity lithium-ion battery pack and booster converter, resulting in the 83 hp (62 kW) jump over the hybrid model. And if you’re wondering whether or not the bigger battery pack impedes on cargo space, Toyota says it’s mounted beneath the floor, resulting in no lost cargo space and a lower center of gravity. The RAV4 still has 37.6 cubic feet of room in the trunk.
 

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It's about time they got some performance back in this buggy. Shame it has to be a plug in though.
 

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It's about time they got some performance back in this buggy. Shame it has to be a plug in though.
Why is it a shame? If you find yourself in a situation that you aren't able to plugin the car it operates like a normal hybrid (and recharges via regenerative breaking and the gas engine). That 300+ Hp and +300 instant torque will be available regardless if you plugin the car. This makes the V6 Rav4s pretty obsolete.
 

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Why is it a shame? If you find yourself in a situation that you aren't able to plugin the car it operates like a normal hybrid (and recharges via regenerative breaking and the gas engine). That 300+ Hp and +300 instant torque will be available regardless if you plugin the car. This makes the V6 Rav4s pretty obsolete.
2012 Volt was 94 MPGe with hybrid at 37MPG.
2021 RAV4 Prime is 90 MPGe, so hybrid has to be much lower... maybe 33MPG?

This is the problem with the PHEV, not as good as hybrid, not as good as EV... twice the handicap.

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This makes the V6 Rav4s pretty obsolete.
Then that makes me the very proud owner of an obsolete car.....actually two.

If it can do all that recharging by itself then why plug it in? Let's just say it wouldn't work for me but I am thrilled that they are putting some performance back into the tepid performing four banger.
 

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Then that makes me the very proud owner of an obsolete car.....actually two.

If it can do all that recharging by itself then why plug it in? Let's just say it wouldn't work for me but I am thrilled that they are putting some performance back into the tepid performing four banger.
To not go to the gas station as often. This vehicle has a 39 MPG range of electric alone. Performance wise in comparison to the rest of Toyota’s cars, it is only second to the Supra. I did not expect Toyota to come out swinging with numbers like this. This is a massive increase.
 

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A PHEV like the RAV4 Prime is eligible for Federal and State (if available) tax credits. Assuming the battery is 16 kWh or greater, the RAV4 Prime would be eligible for a $7,500 federal and (in Colorado, where I live) $5,500 in state tax credits. A 39 mile (all electric) range would allow me to run on electric power over 50% of the time.
 

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A PHEV like the RAV4 Prime is eligible for Federal and State (if available) tax credits. Assuming the battery is 16 kWh or greater, the RAV4 Prime would be eligible for a $7,500 federal and (in Colorado, where I live) $5,500 in state tax credits. A 39 mile (all electric) range would allow me to run on electric power over 50% of the time.
And 75% of the energy you use for charging is generated from coal and gas unless you're off the grid.
 

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The best coal plants are about 40% efficient. Toyota bested that with 45% percent efficiency with gas engines. Propane /natural gas plants are about 60% efficient. Call nuclear whatever efficiency you’d like (ignoring the waste lol). Coal is going out, liquid petroleum plants are moving in. Plugging in your car and charging it from the grid is best and cheapest.
 
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