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Anyone else noticing sluggish throttle response in the 2025 RAV4?

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#1 ·
Hey all,
Just picked up my 2025 RAV4 XLE AWD about two weeks ago (loving it overall),
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but I've noticed that the throttle response feels a bit laggy, especially from a stop or when trying to accelerate quickly onto the highway. It's not terrible, but there's a slight hesitation that I wasn’t expecting.
I test drove the 2023 a while back and I don’t remember it feeling like this. Could this be a tuning change with the new model year? Or maybe it's just the ECU still learning?
Would love to hear if others have experienced something similar—especially from fellow 2025 owners. Did you notice it at first and did it smooth out over time? Or is this just the new normal?
Thanks in advance!
 
#5 ·
That "laggy throttle response" is due to the newness of OP's RAV and his easy-going driving style to carefully break in the two week old car. The 8 speed automatic trans in the OPs gas model has ADAPTIVE LEARNING. It will learn and adapt its behaviour to his driving style over the first months and miles of ownership. If he is a slow and conservative driver it will tend to shift into a higher gear quicker and keep his RPMs lower in each gear. It will feel slow and boggy and sluggish like you are in ECO instead of NORMAL mode. If he is a sporty and spirited driver it will hold in each gear longer so the revs can get up more into the torque and horsepower curves. In his 2 week old, new gas model '25 RAV he probably has not "punched it" yet and really accelerated hard. The '23 he drove previously that did not have the "laggy throttle response" was probably fully broken in and had been driven by more aggressive drivers that the trans adapted to.
 
#15 ·
Taz... you speculated that the hybrid cars would not have lag...

but you don't have one...

I have the phev.... '24... it does have a lag from a stoplight as the motor is turned off, and smashing the throttle you can feel a little lag until the motor starts and generates power (singe ICE does not have max torque at zero rpm)...

so, my vehicle does have a noticable lag as compared to a normal ICE, or BEV.... (I have/have had both, several of each)
 
#16 ·
I am frankly surprised! For years on the 5th gen hybrid sub forum some rude hybrid owners ballyhooed their instant torque and responsiveness. They ridiculed gas models for their alleged slowness and different feel since the torque and horsepower peaks are way up in the rev band in ICE models. Of course, those early hybrid owners (circa 2019-2021) also claimed their cars were bullet proof as compared to the supposedly less reliable gas models that required more maintenance--but that all ended with the CABLEGATE fiasco. Many of those early hybrid blowhards have disappeared from this forum. Hybrids with throttle lag!...who would have thought.
 
#18 ·
My thought is to agree with the other who said it's in ECO mode. It drives way differently when you switch it to NORMAL or SPORT mode.
ECO in my new 2025 Rav4 is like driving a worn-out Corvair from the 60's, lol. I like the Normal mode.
My thought is to agree with the other who said it's in ECO mode. It drives way differently when you switch it to NORMAL or SPORT mode.
ECO in my new 2025 Rav4 is like driving a worn-out Corvair from the 60's, lol. I like the Normal mode.
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Had one!
 
#19 ·
1. Isn't the Corvair the impetus for Nader to write "Unsafe at Any Speed?"

2. I'm surprised that a LOT of people debate about lag in a RAV4 - like with our former Prius, it's just not something that I looked at/for or bothered me, so I never even notice. If it was happening in the 69 396 Camaro I built in high school or 340 six-pack Cuda I built just out of high school, I'd be irked though.

Disclaimer - I'm pokey as h3ll now days, my "speed" days are LOOOOOOONNNNGGG over (I'm 62 now) so it probably contributes to me not knowing/caring about any lag.
 
#31 ·
Twice on my annual trip to southern Utah, I got 45 to 47 MPG for the entire return trip (400+ miles). That was taking the back roads (US 89 mostly) which has speed limits of 50 to 65 MPG. I'm sure I could have gotten 48 - 50 MPG on those trips if not for having to take the last 50 miles on I-15 at 80 MPH to keep up with traffic.

Clearly, speed matters.