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Hi Guys,

I think my headlines don't shine as far as they should. I heard there is a way to "align" them with some screws, etc. Anyone ever tried to do this themselves and if so how did it turn out?

Also, I'm wondering if I can also (or instead) get brighter headlight bulbs, but I am not sure if the wiring will allow for it. Anyone have any experience/good experiences using brighter lights in the headlights than what the OEMs come with? Assuming my bulbs are even OEMs here :)

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There are bulbs that are brighter like Sylvania Silver Star you can buy. There are of course HID (proper retrofit required). Also you can get Philips 9012LL/HIR2 for the low beams. (must do a simple mod trimming the plastic with nail clipper or snips to get the bulbs to fit). There are pros and cons for each so do your research and decide what is best.
 

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And yes you can adjust your headlights...all have vertical adjustment and some even have horizontal adjustment...Google is your friend...
 

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And yes you can adjust your headlights...all have vertical adjustment and some even have horizontal adjustment...Google is your friend...
Don't some European RAV4s have headlight adjustments that can be made from the driver's seat?
 

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There are bulbs that are brighter like Sylvania Silver Star you can buy. There are of course HID (proper retrofit required). Also you can get Philips 9012LL/HIR2 for the low beams. (must do a simple mod trimming the plastic with nail clipper or snips to get the bulbs to fit). There are pros and cons for each so do your research and decide what is best.
What type of retrofitting would be needed? Wiring and a relay I'm guessing? I really wouldn't want to hack my precious Rav.
 

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Are the headlight coverings clear? If not, they can be easily polished.
They are clear and clean. I notice if they get dusty cleaning them with a squeegee mages a big difference too, but they are not in need of serious polishing (yet).
 

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There are bulbs that are brighter like Sylvania Silver Star you can buy. There are of course HID (proper retrofit required). Also you can get Philips 9012LL/HIR2 for the low beams. (must do a simple mod trimming the plastic with nail clipper or snips to get the bulbs to fit). There are pros and cons for each so do your research and decide what is best.
Check out these: http://www.amazon.com/SYLVANIA-SilverStar-Performance-Halogen-Headlight/dp/B000M5W25E

According to my Amazon garage, they fit my RAV. Maybe there are not HID, though, do you think they would fit straight out of the package?
 

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You're not gonna get any real increase in usable light by swapping in these types of bulbs and if you do they will only burn out faster...just replace your current bulbs with 9006 low beam and 9005 high beam...now if that light is not enough for you then you need to ask yourself some questions...is it you?...do you need glasses to drive and if so maybe a checkup is needed...if you really need brighter lights then the best option is to do a proper retrofit...it's not cheap, but the results are fantastic...
 

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What type of retrofitting would be needed? Wiring and a relay I'm guessing? I really wouldn't want to hack my precious Rav.
Check TRS (the retrofit source) You can get a whole headlight assembly or just projector assembly to work with HID.
FWIW I just put in the 9012 bulbs and Momma, who's really challenged in night driving, appreciated the light.
 

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Can't recall the brand - picked them up at Advance Auto.
Trimming the tab on the 9012 bulbs is no big issue - just use the 9006 bulb you pull as a model.
 

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So the bulbs themselves won't work in the OEM assembly, huh? Did you need to increase wire thickness or anything like that, or just change the projector/housing?

Which specific 9012s did you do? I notice the HIR2 has good ratings: http://www.amazon.com/Philips-9012-Standard-Halogen-Headlight/dp/B00U32DG4C

Whereas the LLC has horrific ratings: http://www.amazon.com/Philips-9012LLC1-Light-Bulb/dp/B00P8FPULG
If you are installing 9012 bulbs you don't need to change the wires because wattage is ok for the stock wire.

The first link will fit with some modification to the bulb plastic base. The Amazon listing is for 1 bulb as you can see in the picture.

The second link has bad reviews because the seller has a misleading ad and most of them complain they got 1 bulb and not 2.

I got the Philips 9012 for $25 (pair) but the Ebay seller ad is sold out now. I haven't installed them yet.
 

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For those who want pure white light with more vision, and quality for a few buck's only, I advise GP Thunder H11 halogen bulbs in 5800K.
Last week I changed mine after two years of day and night usage. Now I installed the 8500K version, better traffic sign reflection, but quite a bit less lumen output. The light is to blue-ish. Will go back to 5800K again.
In The Netherlands it's advised by the traffic government to use dim lights day and night for better visability, so two year burning time for the GP Thunder lights is perfect to me. Especially the pure white color with high vision.

In the EU it's also normal to have an electronic dim light high/low control in the dash, it's a small rotary switch which highers/lowers the light beam by turning it up or down. Handy when towing a caravan or high balast.
Strange to read in this topic that this dim light high/low control is not allowed in the US. When turning the high/low wheel in highest position you get the standard angle evey car has, not higher than allowed. You can only correct the beam downwards when pulling high ballast, just to prevent upcoming traffic blinding.
 

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Thanks again. Any reason why you picked the 9012 and not the other ones like 9012 HIR2?
 

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You're not gonna get any real increase in usable light by swapping in these types of bulbs and if you do they will only burn out faster...just replace your current bulbs with 9006 low beam and 9005 high beam...now if that light is not enough for you then you need to ask yourself some questions...is it you?...do you need glasses to drive and if so maybe a checkup is needed...if you really need brighter lights then the best option is to do a proper retrofit...it's not cheap, but the results are fantastic...
Aren't the 9006 and the 9005 standard though, why replace my current bulbs with those?

Also, my eyes are fine. I notice the high-beams don't shine nearly as far as my limited v8 4runner but that would be height and HID at play there at least.

My wife does wear glasses (we check our vision annually) and she finds the lighting a bit low. I found it low but not to a point where it was a problem, just that it's cooler to have further-reaching lights. :)
 

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What type of retrofitting would be needed? Wiring and a relay I'm guessing? I really wouldn't want to hack my precious Rav.
The silverstars do work better than the stock bulbs but strangely enough, the older silverstar version work better than the silverstar "ultra" and they're less expensive. Any of these "enhanced" bulbs sacrifice bulb life for light output so you need to replace more often. It's the whiter light that makes seeing the road easier.

The HIR or HIR2 bulbs are better yet because they give you extra light without sacrificing bulb life. The current gen of Philips bulbs actually last quite a bit longer than stock bulbs with less degradation over the life of the bulb. Stock bulbs, especially the "long life" versions, suffer badly from power fade and usually need to be replaced about once a year or so anyway.

I've tried the silverstars and the HIR2 bulbs in the RAV headlights and silverstars and 70 watt "Ralley" type bulbs in Honda headlights, plus I have the equipment to keep track of the actual light output so I can tell when the Silverstars are getting ready to pop (which they do very well) and heartedly recommend the HIR2 from Philips for the RAV. It's an easy, cost effective, drop-in replacement that makes seeing better without bothering other drivers. If the bulb was more available, I think Toyota would've made it OEM. 9012/low beam - 9011/high beam
 
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