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I'm mostly asking for everyones opinions here. I have an 09' Prius that just recently got hit. Not horrible, but needs new fender, bumper and headlight. Plus i believe my tires are unbalanced or something. I'm getting a lot of road noise. The Prius has 62k on it.
I use it for everything. I've hauled everything from a sectional sofa to mulch in it. And was thinking of getting a hitch with a wire basket for it.

But i've been looking at the new Rav4's and it seems more logical to buy that because of the hauling i do, plus the people i carry around. (plus i like suv's and miss my sunroof)

I don't drive as much as i use too. Now that i'm on disability from work, i only drive about 10-15miles a day. 10-200 miles on the weekend. So i was worried with the low amount of milage it wouldn't be good on the hybrid. But the dealer said as long as you drive it every day it would be fine.

I test drove a 16' XLE Hybrid yesterday and loved it. Didn't drive the regular one, but assume drives about the same. I'd rather have the Hybrid because on the test drive i was almost at 40mpg. But again i don't drive a whole lot...so what model would be better?
 

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If you want a hauler for people and stuff, the Prius-v might be the ticket. Cavernous back seat with room to spare. Seats down you essentially have a 4x6' space back there. Plus actual storage spaces under the deck in back.
 

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If you want a hauler for people and stuff, the Prius-v might be the ticket. Cavernous back seat with room to spare. Seats down you essentially have a 4x6' space back there. Plus actual storage spaces under the deck in back.
I thought about that, but for the money its about the same for the Rav4. And with the Rav4 i can tow a little more. I was thinking of a small camper possibly.
 

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It test-drove the gas-only RAV4 before I got my hybrid RAV4. The gas-only version seemed to have a very sensitive gas pedal, to the point that I would over-accelerate from every stop. It also has little jolts when it changes gears, which is totally absent in the hybrid version. I also converted from a Prius.
 

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I noticed a big difference between the gas and hybrid versions. Gas was louder, transmission was not smooth and didn't have the low range torque. I wouldn't buy the gas version, not impressed. They hybrid version however seemed like a completely different vehicle, an absolute bargain for a $700 upgrade.
 

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I noticed a big difference between the gas and hybrid versions. Gas was louder, transmission was not smooth and didn't have the low range torque. I wouldn't buy the gas version, not impressed. They hybrid version however seemed like a completely different vehicle, an absolute bargain for a $700 upgrade.
I've seen a few people say its only a $700 upgrade. The XLE non hybrid is around $26k and the XLE hybrid is $29k at least.

I love not feeling a transmission shift. I like having it be just one continuation.
 

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I've seen a few people say its only a $700 upgrade. The XLE non hybrid is around $26k and the XLE hybrid is $29k at least.

I love not feeling a transmission shift. I like having it be just one continuation.
The selling price is what you and the dealer negotiate. If you want to play that game, negotiate your best price on the regular Rav4 XLE and just before signing, say you'd like to pay $700 more and get the hybrid version. What are they gonna say? It's $3000 more? We all know Toyota is trying to sell the hybrids pretty hard by all the commercials and magazine ads. Why should you pay an additional premium to the dealer when you and I both know the MSRP is only $700 more than the non-hybrid version?

Beat them into the ground... Most dealerships I've dealt with are honest and I don't begrudge them an honest profit. The ones that price-gouge because a vehicle is 'popular' deserve my scorn - I'll shop elsewhere if they play that game.
 

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I've seen a few people say its only a $700 upgrade. The XLE non hybrid is around $26k and the XLE hybrid is $29k at least.
In my zipcode, MSRP on the AWD XLE is $27,670. On the XLE Hybrid, it is $28,370. That's $700 difference comparing apples to apples. You may have compared the FWD non-hybrid. All hybrids are AWD.
 

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In my zipcode, MSRP on the AWD XLE is $27,670. On the XLE Hybrid, it is $28,370. That's $700 difference comparing apples to apples. You may have compared the FWD non-hybrid. All hybrids are AWD.
All that i've compared at AWD. I actually haven't seen many FWD. My Zip code is 17113 - I'm looking to buy from Bobby Rahal Toyota in Mechanicsburg, PA - Everything i've seen is at least $3k difference. Now comparing an XLE hybrid to a Limited gas is around $700 difference, if that.
 

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I don't drive as much as i use too. Now that i'm on disability from work, i only drive about 10-15miles a day. 10-200 miles on the weekend. So i was worried with the low amount of milage it wouldn't be good on the hybrid. But the dealer said as long as you drive it every day it would be fine.

But again i don't drive a whole lot...so what model would be better?
Help me to understand why the "lower range" (?) of driving mileage is a deterrent versus a higher mileage user... Is it because of a perceived "not taking full advantage of the Hybrid" thing? If your daily "out-and-backs" are done satisfactorily with all-electric, seems to me that might be the way to go. My wife does her daily 32 mile commute @ 33 MPG (actual), but we need our RAV4 Limited Hybrid for our road trips as well. - COLOR ME HAPPY.
 

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Help me to understand why the "lower range" (?) of driving mileage is a deterrent versus a higher mileage user... Is it because of a perceived "not taking full advantage of the Hybrid" thing? If your daily "out-and-backs" are done satisfactorily with all-electric, seems to me that might be the way to go. My wife does her daily 32 mile commute @ 33 MPG (actual), but we need our RAV4 Limited Hybrid for our road trips as well. - COLOR ME HAPPY.
I don't want to kill the hybrid battery by not using it enough or shortening its life by not using it enough.
 

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I don't want to kill the hybrid battery by not using it enough or shortening its life by not using it enough.
I don't understand why the battery would suffer from short trips. They hybrid system makes sure the battery is at a happy state of charge. I could understand being concerned if you were going to park it for months at a time. What am I not getting?
 

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The only way I've ever heard of the hybrid battery being damaged by a driver's usage patterns is from a driver who routinely traveled to and from Florida (by plane) for the winter and left his Prius in a carport in Florida over the summer months while he was enjoying the New England weather. Both his 12 volt battery and his NiMh traction battery eventually were damaged beyond recovery by his actions.

Toyota hybrids cannot stand being unused for over a month or the 12 volt battery may not be able to complete the startup procedure and boot all the computers before it dies. One of the intermediate steps in the boot sequence is to close the contactor that connects the traction battery to the inverter system and thus provides 260 volts to the battery charger/accessory power supply.

Left long enough, the NiMh traction battery can discharge below the safe 60% level Toyota has programmed into the battery management system. Depending on how much charge was in it when parked (it'll be somewhere between 60-80%) it can take a couple of months to several months to get below the threshold where the computer won't operate the vehicle till the battery is recharged by the dealer with special equipment (which most don't have).

It's safe to say that leaving it for a couple weeks between drives of 1/2 hour or more will probably cause no damage to either batteries or engine components. Short drives of less than 10 minutes may eventually lead to acids building up in the oil but it shouldn't hurt the batteries. Just give it 20 miles with some city and freeway driving every once in a while and it'll be just fine.

People with little or no experience with Toyota's hybrids often worry needlessly about battery damage. It's pretty much a non-issue with generation 2 and newer hybrids (2004 and newer). I've owned and driven frequently 6 different Toyota hybrids including a Gen-2 2004 Prius, 2007 Prius, 2010 Prius, 2011 Prius, 2012 Prius V, 2015 Avalon hybrid and now the 2016 Rav4 hybrid. The 2004 had 226,000 miles on it and still had the original 12 volt and hybrid battery. All the others have had plenty of time/miles on them up to the recent ones which aren't old enough and none of them ever had any battery problems.

From my experience the Toyota hybrids are the lowest maintenance vehicles I've ever had experience with. No battery problems, no alternators to fail, no transmissions to rebuild, no clutches to wear. Brakes last forever (over 100 - 200 thousand miles on the several Prius's), exhaust systems still going strong on 10+ year old Prius when it was killed by a deer jumping out in front of it. They're virtually an "appliance" that just keeps on ticking. If only my front-loading washer was so reliable...

I wouldn't worry in the least about a Rav4 hybrid for an occasional short-distance local vehicle. In warmer climes, afer a brief engine warmun your mileage will be over 30 MPG and it'll probably outlast your desire to own it as some other hybrid will call you from the TV ads and pages of a magazine eventually; long before you wear it out.
 

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I'm mostly asking for everyones opinions here. I have an 09' Prius that just recently got hit. Not horrible, but needs new fender, bumper and headlight. Plus i believe my tires are unbalanced or something. I'm getting a lot of road noise. The Prius has 62k on it.
I use it for everything. I've hauled everything from a sectional sofa to mulch in it. And was thinking of getting a hitch with a wire basket for it.

But i've been looking at the new Rav4's and it seems more logical to buy that because of the hauling i do, plus the people i carry around. (plus i like suv's and miss my sunroof)
The Hybrid has a higher towing capacity than the gas RAV4 models.

I test drove a 16' XLE Hybrid yesterday and loved it.
That's one mighty long RAV4.
 

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The hybrid towing limit is 1750, I thought the regular RAV4 was 3500?
3500?!? That's crazy talk. It's 1500 lbs for the gas-only RAV4s.

Maybe you're thinking of the old V6.
 
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