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Hi everyone,
I’m new to the forum; but not new to Toyota. I’m going to be buying a RAV4 Hybrid XLE soon with option packages...very excited. My deciding factor was when I watched a YouTube video where the AWD system in the hybrid was able to complete a fairly difficult trail. I have no intention of going off road; but that made me feel confident that with a set of snow tires, I’ll do just fine in the winter weather in upstate NY. I realized I don’t need a full time AWD system like in a Subaru.

My question is, is there any way to improve the ‘19 Hybrid XLE lights? I saw on an IIHS report that the LED lights are considered poor. Is there anything that could be done to improve it? Or, would the lights be improved on the 2020 models? I may order a 2020 if anyone has heard of improvements being made. Good headlights should be mandatory safety feature.

Also, I’m really leaning towards the Lunar Rock color; but I also like the Blueprint. What is the better color in your opinions?
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I don't get their problem with the lights. I have the LE, which supposedly has lesser lights and they are still the best headlights of any car I have ever owned including an 06 Tacoma that I also currently drive.
 

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I don't get their problem with the lights. I have the LE, which supposedly has lesser lights and they are still the best headlights of any car I have ever owned including an 06 Tacoma that I also currently drive.
Ok, good to know. I just saw the report from IIHS, and was wondering what owners thought. Maybe IIHS is making it a bigger issue than it is.
 

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So far I am very pleased with the headlights on my XSE. They evenly and brightly light the road ahead. Perhaps they cutoff a little short? I wish the DOT would allow active matrix lights here in the U.S. but it is what it is. Toyota marketing only allows adaptive on the limited trim for now. I suspect that this feature will trickle down over the next few years.

For color, consider you climate. No dark colors in a warm climate. Red generally fades over time. White is the best color, however, Toyota has had some issues with white in the past 10 years or so. That being said my friends white pearl Lexus looks perfect on the 2008. I chose silver in a hot climate with a black roof, however, I have the Pano roof so most of the roof is glass. I put heavy sealant on the black part of the roof.

Hi everyone,
I’m new to the forum; but not new to Toyota. I’m going to be buying a RAV4 Hybrid XLE soon with option packages...very excited. My deciding factor was when I watched a YouTube video where the AWD system in the hybrid was able to complete a fairly difficult trail. I have no intention of going off road; but that made me feel confident that with a set of snow tires, I’ll do just fine in the winter weather in upstate NY. I realized I don’t need a full time AWD system like in a Subaru.

My question is, is there any way to improve the ‘19 Hybrid XLE lights? I saw on an IIHS report that the LED lights are considered poor. Is there anything that could be done to improve it? Or, would the lights be improved on the 2020 models? I may order a 2020 if anyone has heard of improvements being made. Good headlights should be mandatory safety feature.

Also, I’m really leaning towards the Lunar Rock color; but I also like the Blueprint. What is the better color in your opinions?
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View the diagrams and descriptions of the comparative edge of the road lighting with the Adaptive lights versus the others. IIHS's view as I recall was that nothing but the adaptive lights would illuminate enough as you round a curve. https://www.iihs.org/ratings/vehicle/toyota/rav4-4-door-suv/2019#headlights I wanted to see that deer or pedestrian coming from the edges of my lane.

As to color, only your opinion matters. There are enough around you may see some on the road in your color choices.
 

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Hi everyone,
I’m new to the forum; but not new to Toyota. I’m going to be buying a RAV4 Hybrid XLE soon with option packages...very excited. My deciding factor was when I watched a YouTube video where the AWD system in the hybrid was able to complete a fairly difficult trail. I have no intention of going off road; but that made me feel confident that with a set of snow tires, I’ll do just fine in the winter weather in upstate NY. I realized I don’t need a full time AWD system like in a Subaru.
The AWD system in the RAV is fully automatic and is functioning all the time. It's just as "full time" as the Subaru.
 

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FWIW I was curious how the lights were on the other vehicles I considered, the Ford Edge and the Honda CR-V, the CR-V seems about the same and the Edge did worse than the RAV4.

I wouldn't own any other brand vehicle so I stopped there.
 

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I have a 2019 XLE Hybrid in Lunar Rock. The lights are perfectly fine for me. They're so bright I get flashed all the time by people thinking they are my high beams.
 

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The AWD system in the RAV is fully automatic and is functioning all the time. It's just as "full time" as the Subaru.
No, it’s not. What I mean by full time is, it doesn’t constantly send some power to the back wheels. It waits for front wheel slip first; and then distributes power to the rear wheels. The Subaru AWD system is 60/40 for the CVTs. Front bias; however there is a mechanical AWD system that constantly has 40% of the power going to the rear wheels. It is not a ‘slip then grip’ system.
That said, I’m really impressed with the RAV4 Hybrid’s AWD system for what it is. I think for most people; it is plenty capable unless you go off road a lot. Not all AWD systems are the same.
 

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No, it’s not. What I mean by full time is, it doesn’t constantly send some power to the back wheels. It waits for front wheel slip first; and then distributes power to the rear wheels. The Subaru AWD system is 60/40 for the CVTs. Front bias; however there is a mechanical AWD system that constantly has 40% of the power going to the rear wheels. It is not a ‘slip then grip’ system.
That said, I’m really impressed with the RAV4 Hybrid’s AWD system for what it is. I think for most people; it is plenty capable unless you go off road a lot. Not all AWD systems are the same.
I have a 2019 Limited Hybrid with 6000 miles and upon monitoring the graphics for the drive wheels, ... the rear wheels are being driven whenever you start out, ... when entering into most corners, ... plus when any wheel speed differential is being detected. ... In addition another graphic shows the actual wheel torque that's being applied to each of the 4 wheels in real time.
So far I love the vehicle and it's systems.
Earlier today as I was backing out of a space in a large grocery store parking lot, an adult walked from the side to directly in back of my vehicle while looking down at their cell phone, and before I noticed him, the RAV4 automatically braked on its own to a complete stop before I could lift my foot from the gas to the brake! ... The safety systems really do work great - thankfully.
 

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I don't get their problem with the lights. I have the LE, which supposedly has lesser lights and they are still the best headlights of any car I have ever owned including an 06 Tacoma that I also currently drive.
I agree - I really wanted the adaptive headlights, so I was ready to be critical of the regular headlights, but they are much much better than my 2011 Prius and 2011 Sienna. That said, I can't believe Toyota is only offering the adaptive headlights on the Limited. Hopefully in a few years they'll be available on all models. And a few years after that they'll be standard on all models!
 

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I have a Hybrid XLE as well, the headlights are fine. I added the LED projector fog lights and that widened the spread a bit especially at the lower end of the beam.
 

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If you read this forum, the headlights seem to be the least of your concerns. I just purchased a 2020 XSE, and after reading these forums, I'm getting a bit of anxiety waiting for my next fill up lol.
 

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If you read this forum, the headlights seem to be the least of your concerns. I just purchased a 2020 XSE, and after reading these forums, I'm getting a bit of anxiety waiting for my next fill up lol.
As an active participant in about 10 automotive related forums (ones I was thinking of buying this time as well brands/models I owned prior) let me assure you that you might never buy another car if you read the forums. Any forum. Just think, 500 parts times 500,000 cars times 10 years and the probabilities add up to lots of random failures even if the cars are darn good cars. Few post just to say how much they love their cars.

The last 6 Toyotas my family has owned have all been good cars. Perfect? No car is. But if there was a bad experience amoung them why would two independent buyers come to the same brand conclusion and buy 3 Toyota's each.
 

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My question is, is there any way to improve the ‘19 Hybrid XLE lights? I saw on an IIHS report that the LED lights are considered poor. Is there anything that could be done to improve it? Or, would the lights be improved on the 2020 models? I may order a 2020 if anyone has heard of improvements being made. Good headlights should be mandatory safety feature.
I've had my RAV4 for a couple of weeks now and it's the first car I have owned with LED lights. I'm colour blind which means my night vision can sometimes be poor and I have always minimised night driving for this reason. The lights on my new car are spectacular and a real revelation for me personally, I wouldn't worry about them if I was you.

Hands down this is the best vehicle I have ever owned for driver convenience and technology. :)
 
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