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This video is shocking as to various changes especially in 2022 gas models.
That video is click-bait in order to get your views and for them to try and make money via your clicks/views.
"shocking" ? I won't know, b/c I have no need to click on it, but I highly doubt there is anything "shocking" revealed.
 

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That video is click-bait in order to get your views and for them to try and make money via your clicks/views.
"shocking" ? I won't know, b/c I have no need to click on it, but I highly doubt there is anything "shocking" revealed.
No fog lights anymore on XLE models. Adaptive headlights and LED strip DRL on XLE and others. No roof rails (with potential leak) on some models. Reduction of the touch screen size to standard 7" from the 8" on some premium models. I'd say it's shocking--if true.
 

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No fog lights anymore on XLE models. Adaptive headlights and LED strip DRL on XLE and others. No roof rails (with potential leak) on some models. Reduction of the touch screen size to standard 7" from the 8" on some premium models. I'd say it's shocking--if true.
"if true" - just wait for the press release from Toyota. No need to support "content creators" who just make up things and wildly speculate in order to get clicks. Stop encouraging them :)
 

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No fog lights anymore on XLE models. Adaptive headlights and LED strip DRL on XLE and others. No roof rails (with potential leak) on some models. Reduction of the touch screen size to standard 7" from the 8" on some premium models. I'd say it's shocking--if true.
You do realize that the Canadian Market is separate from the US market? As a small market our options packages have always been substantially reduced here with much less choice than the US market.

I wouldn't put any stock in what Toyota is offering in the US market based on the Great White North.
 

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Based on what’s going on in the car market and shipping market, I’d would take the 21 with out a question. Then I’d reasearch the 22’s, maybe put a deposit on one as part of the deal when finalizing the purchase. First, shipping is taking lot longer than in the past. So that 22 is going to take some time, if they even have the chips to make one. If you decide that the 22 is a must have, you can potentially break even on the trade in, something that isn’t even remotely thought about typically.
 

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Crazy to me, to just now get our VIN, ( ordered it back at the beginning of August) and it's a 21 model year. We get to own this vehicle for about a month in 2021 by the time it arrives from Aichi in Japan. My mind says i should be getting a 2022 model year this late in 21! When we go to trade3 in in a few years we are lost a year in value already...... Or am i wrong thinking this?
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I hear you but you are lucky to get a new Prime given the shortage, which may run deep into next year. You may take a little hit but so what. I doubt 2022 Prime will be signficantly quicker or cheaper or superior. Just enjoy your RAV4 Prime and please smoke some old guy with a Ford Escort Platinum Turbo.
 

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Based on what’s going on in the car market and shipping market, I’d would take the 21 with out a question. Then I’d reasearch the 22’s, maybe put a deposit on one as part of the deal when finalizing the purchase. First, shipping is taking lot longer than in the past. So that 22 is going to take some time, if they even have the chips to make one. If you decide that the 22 is a must have, you can potentially break even on the trade in, something that isn’t even remotely thought about typically.
Incorrect info about shipping. There are less loadings at THS and cost has increased, but the shipping time has not changed.
 

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Incorrect info about shipping. There are less loadings at THS and cost has increased, but the shipping time has not changed.

this was an article from the end of July, and it hasn’t gotten better. Not sure how Toyota could by pass the wait. But I’m fine being wrong on this one.
 

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Thanks everyone! It seems we should take the 21 Prime and just trade in a couple years to get most of the purchase price back. I really appreciate everyone's info. Huge help. Thanks again!
 

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I hear you but you are lucky to get a new Prime given the shortage, which may run deep into next year. You may take a little hit but so what. I doubt 2022 Prime will be signficantly quicker or cheaper or superior. Just enjoy your RAV4 Prime and please smoke some old guy with a Ford Escort Platinum Turbo.
Heck, smoke the guy in the Mach E :p
 

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Incorrect info about shipping. There are less loadings at THS and cost has increased, but the shipping time has not changed.
But once the cars arrive at a port in the US, they seem to sit there for a month or more. At least, this is what seems to happen at PoNY. My car, VIN #0564xx, was just delivered to the dealer, 1 hour away from PoNY.
 

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But once the cars arrive at a port in the US, they seem to sit there for a month or more. At least, this is what seems to happen at PoNY. My car, VIN #0564xx, was just delivered to the dealer, 1 hour away from PoNY.
Don't believe this is the case. On what ship did your car arrive? Usually at PONY no more than 10 days or so for port installed accessories and schedule for transporter. During a snowstorm last winter, it was almost 3 weeks.
 

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Don't believe this is the case. On what ship did your car arrive? Usually at PONY no more than 10 days or so for port installed accessories and schedule for transporter. During a snowstorm last winter, it was almost 3 weeks.
I do not know about the ship. Exactly 3 weeks ago (before I reserved this car `in transit"), the dealer said the car was at the port" with no ETA at the dealership and that it could be a few weeks". They said the same thing when I reserved it the following Tuesday. Based on other people's posts, cars with VINs 055xx x were arriving at PoNY in August or early September. They were `installing" only the mudguards and the weather mats on my car at the port. They might have a shortage of mechanics or truck drivers, resulting in delays. Overall, less than 3 weeks from reservation to the now scheduled pickup, not bad for a car in my preferred color, at the MSRP, and with minimal pre-installed options (I just wish it were possible to have it w/o the moonroof package with adds $1665 to the MSRP).
 

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I do not know about the ship. Exactly 3 weeks ago (before I reserved this car `in transit"), the dealer said the car was at the port" with no ETA at the dealership and that it could be a few weeks". They said the same thing when I reserved it the following Tuesday. Based on other people's posts, cars with VINs 055xx x were arriving at PoNY in August or early September. They were `installing" only the mudguards and the weather mats on my car at the port. They might have a shortage of mechanics or truck drivers, resulting in delays. Overall, less than 3 weeks from reservation to the now scheduled pickup, not bad for a car in my preferred color, at the MSRP, and with minimal pre-installed options (I just wish it were possible to have it w/o the moonroof package with adds $1665 to the MSRP).
I would seriously question the ethics of your dealer statement. The dealers know precisely when the vehicle moves via Dealer Daily. Ask them to show you a screenshot.
 

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I would seriously question the ethics of your dealer statement. The dealers know precisely when the vehicle moves via Dealer Daily. Ask them to show you a screenshot.
Why would it benefit them to tell me that they have no ETA for a vehicle I am considering? They knew it was at `the port", but perhaps did not know when it would be delivered. It was one of many vehicles listed as being `in transit" on their website.I think they simply did not want to promise any specific day for when it will be available and risk having me complain later about delays.
 

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OP if you are worried about lost value there is always lease which would be my preference since we should see flood of plugins in the next 5 years and it would be tempting to upgrade. Otherwise keeping it long term won't matter.

Heck, smoke the guy in the Mach E :p
You won't be smoking anyone driving AWD BEV but if you have wet dreams smoking some escort like that clunker geezer then Prime will do the job though it's not as pleasant as BEV really.
 

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I would seriously question the ethics of your dealer statement. The dealers know precisely when the vehicle moves via Dealer Daily. Ask them to show you a screenshot.
Nah, it's messy. My dealer was awesome, and it took a month to leave port. Dealer Daily didn't always have up to date stuff on it and it stayed in several status' for a while without updates. My dealer sent me tons of screen pics. Expect delivery about 1-1.5mo after it hits port.
 

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OP if you are worried about lost value there is always lease which would be my preference since we should see flood of plugins in the next 5 years and it would be tempting to upgrade. Otherwise keeping it long term won't matter.


You won't be smoking anyone driving AWD BEV but if you have wet dreams smoking some escort like that clunker geezer then Prime will do the job though it's not as pleasant as BEV really.

From a highway roll, the Prime actually might pull off the W. The Mach E is a beast from a dig, but loses all steam up top, running mid 12's at only 100mph. The Rav is softer down low, but also traps around 100mph in magazine tests, at least. This implies a highway pull might happen.
 

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From a highway roll, the Prime actually might pull off the W. The Mach E is a beast from a dig, but loses all steam up top, running mid 12's at only 100mph. The Rav is softer down low, but also traps around 100mph in magazine tests, at least. This implies a highway pull might happen.
Maybe but it's not going to smoke it really, likely just a close race. Would be interesting to see if someone could test this though. We need more drag races on YouTube to end this debate :)
 

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OP if you are worried about lost value there is always lease which would be my preference since we should see flood of plugins in the next 5 years and it would be tempting to upgrade. Otherwise keeping it long term won't matter.
So if he's worried about loss of value, i.e. the car costing him more, he should forego the EV tax credit and acquire the car via the most expensive method?
 
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