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need to replace tires at 30,000 miles

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#1 ·
And i am annoyed. Brought my 2023 RAV4 (purchased with 500 miles on it on Jan. 1, 2024) for oil change and tire rotation at 30,000 and they told me that my tires are shot. (and they are, particularly one of them. why didn't they point this out the last time i was in?) i have NEVER had tires wear out so fast! i do not drive off road or do anything but normal old lady driving. i have NEVER had tires that lasted less than 60,000 miles! the service guy told me that these vehicles come fro the factory with lousy tires. REALLY? i asked about the warranty and he didn't know. and there's no warranty for tires in my materials. i feel totally ripped off. 1. is there anything i can do about this? and 2. more importantly, what kind of tires do you all recommend? i live in Minnesota. i am checking out Costco for this, any other suggestions?
 
#3 ·
What tires were on the car when you bought it? Yes, tires from the factory are not the best. What is the UTQG rating on them (it is molded into the side walls): https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/what-are-the-uniform-tire-quality-grade-utqg-standards?srsltid=AfmBOooGBlEtMnb01sMgNEpIia5ve7mTKlnACq6J195MFr8VKiv5NMdq

There is no warranty on tires. The only possible warranty is a manufacturing defect, which you don't have. Toyota does not warrant tires, only the tire manufacturer.

If you want longer wear, get a tire with the highest UTQG you can find. One of the highest is the Michelin Defender.

Since you live in snow country, you might consider a three peak mountain snow flake rated tire: https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/what-is-the-threepeak-mountain-snowflake-symbol?srsltid=AfmBOoqmIY_OYD3w-Mf5pVpfI_P-AT7Q-wkw6DeARMpZPblsFs3YeKo9

There are a number of three peak mountain snowflake rated tires that have long life such as the Michelin CC2, and the Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive. Those are also all season tires, so you can run them year round without swapping for dedicated winter or summer tires.

Even if the dealer says your tires are worn out, some dealers are cheats and will tell you they are worn out when they are not. Just last week, my RAV4 was at the dealer and they told me that my rather new Pirelli Scorpion WeatherActive tires were nearly worn out and had only 4/32" tread remaining. When I got home, I measured them myself and they all had 8 to 9/32" tread.( New, they were 10/32" tread depth). Get an in expensive tire depth gauge and measure them for yourself. You just can't trust some dealers these days! https://www.amazon.com/GODESON-88702
 
#8 ·
We put Michelin Defender 2 on my wife's RAV4 when we replace the Factory tires and they are great. 80,000 mile warranty. I have the Falken Wild Peaks on my RAV4 and love them Both bought at Discount Tire where we have bought tires there for decades. great service and prices. BTW Tre Rack is owned by Discount Tire.
 
#10 · (Edited)
If wear patterns on the tread are uneven, it would be worthwhile to check wheel alignment as well.

My opinion on "best overall tires" is a little unorthodox; I find that Falken Ziex ZE 001 (which don't get good reviews, have low UTOG, and are not famous for anything) are a good compromise among longevity, grip, quietness, and price. That said, I have not had them on my RAV4 yet. The RAV is still on its stock tires @ 26K miles and those don't look bad at all. The stock tires are Dunlop-something and they don't get great reviews either.
 
#11 ·
Had to switch out my factory tires this summer on my 21, RAV4, the only reason they lasted to long is I run with winter tires from Nov to April, each year. There was not much tread when I said goodbye to them.
 
#13 ·
The tires that come on a new car are usually not the best possible choices, and are sometimes quite lame. The tires that came on my 2024 RAV4 Hybrid Woodland Edition were Falken Wildpeak tires, but they were not the Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail tires with UTQG 680 A A ratings and the 3-Peak Mountain Snowflake "Severe Winter" rating and 65,000 mile tread life warranty that one might buy at a tire store. They are instead a specially made Wildpeak A/T Trail 01A tire with less tread depth, UTQG ratings of 360 B A, only an M+S all season rating, and absolutely no tread life warranty. A cheap substitute that I unfortunately did not notice before completing purchase of the vehicle.

Since the tread depth on the tires that came on my RAV4 was slightly more than half of the tread depth for ordinary new tires, they will probably only last half as long as a new set of tires. It is important to regularly check tread depth on your tires (check them yourself if you can't trust your dealer) to understand the wear rate and how it corresponds to the miles you are putting on the vehicle.
 
#14 ·
I'd skip the original Toyo's that came on the family's MY24 XLE AWD as they are pretty horrid(noisy, tracking-meh, etc..). My plan is to install General RT all-season's or Michelin's as it's not taken off road at all.
 
#16 ·
Feel lucky that you got 30K miles out of your factory tires. I changed mine around that time too. My truck I replaced the factory tires at 18K miles. And they wore out again at 18K miles. Manufacturer told me to take it to a distributor of their tires and have them looked at. I did and they were wearing evenly across the tire as well as all 4 wearing evenly. They prorated the tire. Current tires are wearing much better. And I rotate(d) my tires every 5K miles when I do the oil change, religiously.
 
#19 ·
Michelin Defenders is what I have on my 2018. I run them year round and have never installed a snow tire in the winter months my entire life on any car I have owned. I live where it snows a lot in the winter and have no issues with them.
 
#20 ·
That depends on what ur goals are. My tires seldom last over 40 due to my emphasis on performance and especially wet emergency maneuvers. My winter tires I use Pirelli weatheractive and they do well in all areas of performance and last me so far 60k. My summers I use Pirelli p zeros as (discontinued) and so far about 10k per a 32nd so I’m guessing 50k. There’s plenty of tires that have long treadwear warranty but it’s a sacrifice. All tires sacrificed something.
 
#21 ·
The WeatherActive tires are 3 peak snow flake rated so they are great in the winter. They are also an all season tire, which means they are great in the summer too. They have a long life. i.e. you don't need to change them for summer tires.

The very best "summer" tires with the highest dry traction are far and away the Michelin Pilot series. I have had them twice now. Yes, the wear a bit faster.
 
#22 ·
I only run the weather actives in Arkansas winters because I prefer my p zeros but I need to deliver regionally so I must be prepared. You’re correct they do it all well but not as sharp or as quite.
 
#23 ·
As already said some posts bafore, 30.000 miles is a good duration for tires, specially for our heavy vehicles. Of course you can get better, but also much worst. My previous vehicle tires only lasted 20000-25000 miles. Specially if you live in a could region and want to use them for snow driving, it is advisable to change them wih still decent thread depth.