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I might get Penzoil as they have it in Canadian Tire for 30$ Canadian on sale 馃槄 5QTS
Good deal, cheapest I found it was at $32/5 quart bottle and I'm in the US, $30 Canadian is a great deal. I can only get it from Amazon so when I change the oil I order a new one since it could take a month or so to find it available.
 

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No, I changed with Mobil 1 several times at the dealership, no issues even when I still had my 2 year free oil change. Toyota will only change it once a year or 10,000 miles so if you want to change it every 6 months you'll have to pay. Now I just installed a Fumoto valve and change myself w/ Mobil 1 0W-16, Walmart sells it the cheapest.

ExxonMobil manufacturers Toyota engine oil and dealerships will even substitute with Mobil 1 if they're out of Toyota branded oil. Mobil 1 is also a partner of TRD.
Correct. The only difference between Toyota 0W-16 and Mobil 1 is the Toyota blend has slightly higher Molly Content. Per 鈥淏ob鈥檚 the Oil Guy鈥 NOA.
 

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Anyone else have the knuckeheads at the dealership add 5 qts of oil instead of the specified 4.8? I went in for my "free" oil change and they used 5 qts (of unlabled bulk oil) leading to an overfil on the dip stick. I called them out on it and they said they overfill because no one ever checks the oil. I know it's a little thing but the dealership is suppose to follow the manual right, that's why they charge 50% more than independant shops.

I drove home, got my gear, drained the 5 qts of unbranded mystery oil and added the correct amount of Mobil 1 0-16. That's my last 'free' oil change I'll use and probably the last time I go to the dealer. There was no one over 30 in the service department.
 

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Anyone else have the knuckeheads at the dealership add 5 qts of oil instead of the specified 4.8? I went in for my "free" oil change and they used 5 qts (of unlabled bulk oil) leading to an overfil on the dip stick. I called them out on it and they said they overfill because no one ever checks the oil. I know it's a little thing but the dealership is suppose to follow the manual right, that's why they charge 50% more than independant shops.

I drove home, got my gear, drained the 5 qts of unbranded mystery oil and added the correct amount of Mobil 1 0-16. That's my last 'free' oil change I'll use and probably the last time I go to the dealer. There was no one over 30 in the service department.
They overfilled mine at my last oil change a week ago. I checked the oil on the spot before leaving. Yep, overfilled quite a bit. Went back and showed it to them. They said they have a machine where you put in your model and it pumps out the right amount of oil for your vehicle.
 

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Anyone else have the knuckeheads at the dealership add 5 qts of oil instead of the specified 4.8? I went in for my "free" oil change and they used 5 qts (of unlabled bulk oil) leading to an overfil on the dip stick. I called them out on it and they said they overfill because no one ever checks the oil. I know it's a little thing but the dealership is suppose to follow the manual right, that's why they charge 50% more than independant shops.

I drove home, got my gear, drained the 5 qts of unbranded mystery oil and added the correct amount of Mobil 1 0-16. That's my last 'free' oil change I'll use and probably the last time I go to the dealer. There was no one over 30 in the service department.
The overfill seems to be a frequent occurrence. The dealer did that on my
first oil change. Only noticed when I checked the oil level a few days later.
Then Toyota emailed me a 鈥渟urvey鈥. I blasted them for incompetence, not following procedure
inattentive staff, lack of supervision鈥 the works. The dealership called me right after to
inquire about the 鈥渦nsatisfactory鈥 survey. The service manager asked me to come in and he
personally drained some oil. Next time they showed me the dip stick before I left, but they wanted to
unplug my camera and did not want to replace a trim piece that fell off the roof.
I am planning to do the next oil change myself 鈥 hassle free.
 

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They overfilled mine at my last oil change a week ago. I checked the oil on the spot before leaving. Yep, overfilled quite a bit. Went back and showed it to them. They said they have a machine where you put in your model and it pumps out the right amount of oil for your vehicle.
Forgot to also mention that last time since the most recent one a week ago, the same dealership got the oil level correct(looks like their machine needs a calibration, lol), but didn't install a crush washer. Luckily the bolt held and no leaks. Going to try to drain some of the oil tomorrow. Hopefully they installed a crush washer this time. This was the last of my Toyotacare oil changes. From now on it's diy.
 

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Doing oil changes is the lowest rung on the mechanic ladder. My local Jiffy Lube uses local prisoners on work release programs. If you have the space and the skill level to change your own lightbulbs, change the oil yourselves. You can get filters and crush washers from your dealer's part department and know that it is done right.

My local dealership DOES NOT use Toyota oil, they have a drum of unlabled mystery oil, no thanks.
 

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Most people will do just as good or better job than the dealer but hope you never have an oil related failure. Good luck with your ensuing fight.
I am wondering if Canadian Toyota dealer would accept my own oil if I would bring it to them myself or example Mobil1 or something like that or they would just tell me to get lost :)
 

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I am wondering if Canadian Toyota dealer would accept my own oil if I would bring it to them myself or example Mobil1 or something like that or they would just tell me to get lost :)
Unlikely if they already offer M1. However, can't hurt to ask.
 

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5 qts of oil instead of the specified 4.8?....leading to an overfil on the dip stick. ...they said they overfill because no one ever checks the oil.
I'm not too concerned. FWIW, long ago in another world, Ford(?) made "heavy-duty" engines by using a different dip-stick calibrated for 6qt instead of 5qt. It easily fit in the large pans of the day. Yes, I know what F.O.R.D. stands for.

Yes, if the old Odyssey was a quart over-full it would belch it out all over the engine bay. Rust-proofing! Also a serious over-full snags the spinning crank, adds drag, whips a foam that won't pump. Can be fatal (but only at an extreme).

An extra 0.2 quart in say a 16"x8" oil pan (it's not a simple pan anymore but this function) is about 1/10 of an inch (0.25mm) high. (0.1"X16"X8"= 12.8 cubic inches, 61ci per liter divided by 12.8ci is 0.21 inches.) There has to be an inch or two of slosh on turns and braking. Another tenth-inch can't be a big deal.
 
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