23 R4P XSE w/PP Stormtrooper edition.
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Everything you said is accounted for in the poll. Even the first thing you said -- that people are more likely to report successes. That's specifically why I made the answers anonymous. No one will know which option you picked unless you want to say so after voting.This poll is worthless by the way. First people are far more likely to report their "successes" as opposed to failure (paying over MSRP). Second market situations keep changing. So motivation to pay over MSRP has changed as well. And third, the 7500 tax incentive dropped out.
I got my SE at MSRP plus $299 doc fee, which was their doc fee for years, so cannot quibble. Put in my desires in May 2021. Got informed of the vehicle leaving Japan March of 2021 (not long after Ukraine was invaded). Dealer held by their commitment to sell for MSRP. Molle Toyota here in KC. Honorable people.
Had $1000 down at Hendrick Toyota in KC are as well. They later squirmed out of the deal, demanding over $6000 add ons (which I refused) instead of the $1600 I had agreed to. Moment I said "I'll pass" they promptly cancelled the earlier "deal", which they made me SIGN for even, and issued me a check.
I have bought several Toyotas from Jay Wolfe in KC through the years. I started asking about Prime in late 2020 with the dealer I have used long term. They required no down since I was an existing customer. Told them I wanted Silver SE with Weather Pkg. In July 2021 they offered me a Silver XSE with Premium Pkg over 50k, but at MSRP. Lots of stuff like running boards that I was not interested in (at the time). Politely I declined (pre-Ukraine). I kept in touch with my saleman. In March 2022, he informed me "the rules have changed" and they were then charging $5000 market adjustment.
Next Toyota I buy:
This is just s simple poll on a small internet forum, it is not a research paper for a PhD dissertation or Master's thesis.
Your story and several others give a good perspective of how the market has changed in just two years because of Covid, Ukraine, and other factors. It also looks like some parts of the US like the northeast are more likely to see R4Ps being sold at MSRP and states like CA and a few others are getting the short end of the MSRP stick. It also looks like in general it was easier to find them at MSRP when they first came out.