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QL-RAV977 software mods

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Here is new topic dedicated to software mods for QL_RAV977 ( roadrover)

will discuss here:
navigation software
iphonetoday
internet connection
utilities
notes
games
and etc.

Already done:
adding TMC receiver by strados (post #44)
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Additional question:
My unit shows one device named NAND Flash and another named Static Store. Where did you store the DLL ?
Second additional question.
You wrote " ... after off/on, popup dialog ask me for driver location ... "
I suppose the dialog didn't popup directly after power on, but after plug in the wifi stick ?

I tried something similar with a usb2ser adapter. But the popup dialog only asked me for the name of the driver.dll, not its location ?
Did you get the same dialog but typed in the complete path \nand store\other\dllname.dll ?
While watching product video on QualiR page I saw a cover pictures off the played mp3 files were displayed on the audio player screen. How must this be stored into the mp3 ?
I got the TMC running with external GNS TrafficBox !

Using a FTDI USB-Serial adapter model "USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT_5.0" (http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/Cables/USBRS232.htm)
soldering its cord direct to the pads at TrafficBox.
Before plug in the adapter you must modify the .inf file to force correct installing the driver !
If you forget, the driver will create registry keys for serial port com10 but iGO8 don't know any com pots higher than 9. If this happens, you have to modify the registry key after that by hand.

To mod the .inf file:
old content : HKR,,"InitialIndex",0x00010001,10 <-- this would create COM10
new content : HKR,,"InitialIndex",0x00010001,9 <-- this will create COM9

The ftdi_ser.dll and modified FTDIPORT.INF must copied to \StaticStore\Bin_CE and the inf file additional to \Windows.
Now plug in the usb adaptor and a window will pop up where you can type in the complete path of drivername "\StaticStore\Bin_CE\ftdi_ser.dll"
After plug out/in Windows will load and activate the adaptors driver and iGO8 can control the tmc receiver. You can watch the activity by a red and green LED inside the transparent usb plug.

That's it ! And I'm very happy to solve this.
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Hi Strados,
congrats about your mod! Brilliant!!!
Could you public some pictures?
Could you specifiy to which pins you soldered which cables?
Could you explain better why you soldered the ps2 plug and where you plug it?
Las but not least, can you tell me exactly whcih model you bought from qualir?
Thanks
enzo
Hi enzo,
it's very simple.
The FTDI adaptor's cord contains 6 wires for GND, CTS#, Power, TXD, RXD, RTS#.
But we only need these 4 : GND black, 5V Power red, TXD orange, RXD yellow.
The GNS TrafficBox FM9 Universal (=RS232) is fitted with a cord with PS/2 plug. But we don't need this cord and solder it off complete. -> But notice the colors of the wires first, that's important, cause there are no sighs on the pcb.

I cut the cord of the FTDI adaptor for about 30cm length, original is 180cm, that's too long. Now the 4 wires black, red, orange and brown have to be soldered to the pads of the TrafficBox like you noticed the original wires before. : GND black, -> black, 5V Power red -> red, TXD orange -> orange, RXD yellow -> brown (that's the only different colored wire).

You can have a look at the FDTI datasheet, page 7 : http://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/DataSheets/Cables/DS_USB_RS232_CABLES.pdf

and GNS TrafficBox : http://www.gns-gmbh.com/shop/xtc/pr....html&XTCsid=91d4c638615e9eb78a2b408e58406274

with pinout : http://www.gns-gmbh.com/index.php?e...6686263&hash=9eb468b46aca95520a49e3cee26c4c35
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Thanks.
So what you did is to create an adaptor PS2/Rs232>USB. Right?

If so this means that in your unit, you have a usb port with direct access to the motherboard.

I wonder if this is because you ordered your unit with the 3G modem.
I do not want the 3G modem but I would like to have the usb port so connected, in order to attach a wifi dongle-

Do you think it is possible to have it from your supplier?

If so, I would copy your mod, add a wifi dongle and I should be all set for waht I am looking for.

Thanks for your advise.
enzo
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I created this: TrafficBox -> (black cord=RS232) -> FTDI-Adaptor -> USB.

Look at the pictures you can see behind the links:
1) GNS TrafficBox: You can see the TMC-Receiver, it's a tiny little black box with one cord that has fitted a MD6 = PS/2 plug. This cord isn't needed, so I soldered it off (but notice the wire colors before).
2) FTDI datasheet: On page 1 you can see the adaptor, which is built in the USB plug with an open cord fitted. That cord is lenght of 180cm, I cut it to 30cm.
- After that I solder this 30cm cord with 4 wires black, red, orange, yellow to the 4 pads GND, 5V+ RXD, TXD of the TraffixBox.
Ready, that's all.

The Unit this topic depends on is a "Roadrover C7009TR". I purchased it from QualiR (www.autodvdgps.com). They sell it as their own label "QL-RAV977".

The special of the Roadrover units are: All apps you can select from menue (radio, mp3-player, dvd-player, bluetooth = mobilephone and also navigator are running direct on WinCE6.0 ! There is no additional second level prozessor with firmware necessary.
The unit contains 3 ! USB plugs. One at the front, two at the back. All 3 are direct connected to the mainboard and are controlled by Windows. When you plug in any device, i.e. USB stick or anything else, you can hear the well known "dingdong" as it sounds on any WinXP or Vista PC.

When you plug in your wifi dongle a window pops up immediately which is asking for the name of driver.dll. That will happen only the first time. Very important: You have to prepare two things previously. First modify the .inf file to force Windows to create a COM9 Port instead of default COM10. Second copy the .inf file and the .dll to "StaticStore\Bin_CE\" and once more to \Windows. That can be done by Total Commander. When typing in the .dll name you must type the comlete path "\StaticStore\Bin_CE\ftdi_ser.dll". This will create a key to the registry, which is independent of the folder \Windows cause the folder \Windows will be overwritten on every reboot = poweroff/on.

I ordered my unit with already fitted 3G modem cause I didn't know, that I could add it by myself. (now I know it). I'm running Navigon MN7 with TMCPro and will try update it to Traffic Live service. But this requires a permanent internet connection to get realtime traffic information.
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Hi Strados,
I have ordered the ql-rav977!!! Thanks for your suggestions.
Now I am looking for the mod you suggeted.
Browsign GNS's site, I noticed this product http://www.gns-gmbh.com/shop/xtc/pr...html&XTCsid=91d4c638615e9eb78a2b408e58406274 I wonder if it could be used directly without purchasing the FTDI cable and do the soldering you expalined.
If not, cpuld you please confirm that what you bought from FDTI is this part number?
USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT_5.0. If not can you please tell me the part number you purchased?
Thanks
enzo
Hi Strados,
I have ordered the ql-rav977!!! Thanks for your suggestions.
Now I am looking for the mod you suggested.
Browsign GNS's site, I noticed this product. http://www.gns-gmbh.com/shop/xtc/pr....html&XTCsid=91d4c638615e9eb78a2b408e58406274
I wonder if it could be used directly without purchasing the FTDI cable and doing the soldering you explained.
If not, could you please confirm that what you bought from FDTI this part number?
USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT_5.0.
If not, can you please tell me the part number you purchased?
Thanks
enzo
I also wondered why this could not be used. But the GNS support explained to me that all GNS TrafficBoxes which are fitted with a mUSB plug only looks like USB. They all have a serial interface with TTL level built in. That is because all PNA (Navigation) units are using their mini USB plug for power supply, for USB-Storage device function and additional for serial data transfer on TTL level. It's a tripple function combined in one plug. To connect a TrafficBox to the QL-RAV977 we need a regular USB data interface. Now there are 2 options:
1) Combining a GNS TrafficBox Universal http://www.gns-gmbh.com/shop/xtc/pr....html&XTCsid=40073c425479fcbe600117f8bf3ad4cb (that has real RS232 interface) with FTDI adapter USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT_5.0.
2) Using a GNS TrafficBox 5860 http://www.gns-gmbh.com/shop/xtc/pr....html&XTCsid=40073c425479fcbe600117f8bf3ad4cb
Advantage of this unit: It has already built in Serial / USB Converter and so it is plug&play for the USB of QL-RAV977. Disadvantage is its price of 89,- Euro plus shipping.
I decided option 1) because of less cost. FTDI adaptor about 35.- Euro incl. tax and shipping from GB and GNS TRafficBox Universal about 15,- Euro off eBay.
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Thanks again for your help.
I see your point in making the combinations of the two.
This however, could be really handy http://www.gns-gmbh.com/shop/xtc/pr....html&XTCsid=40073c425479fcbe600117f8bf3ad4cb if the RAV977 would be able to connect via bluetooth.
Any opinion?
ciao
enzo
Like any other China made radio-navi unit the bluetooth also of QL-RAV977 by default only supports A2DP audio stream protocol but no SPP serial port protocol.
I know many users think this should be the easiest way to connect an external device like TMC receiver or anything else. Undortunately it is not. May be it would be possible to install an additional bluetooth manager to WinCE but I highly recommend not. Don't forget: Windows embedded CE is NOT Windows Mobile !!
Thanks Strados,
your info are always very useful.
I think I will go for the GNS TrafficBox 5860.
I have one more quesion.
I want to test and make all the mod at home, instead of doing it with the unit already installed, but being the unit plug and play for the car, I have difficulties with powering it up.
I wonder if you could tell me which pins I need to connect to a external power supply.
ciao
enzo
I already tried 3 times to answer your PM but all messages stay in my outbox. Can't understand this ????
So will copy it here:
Hi enzo,
do you know, whether your car is equipped whith a JBL Audio system or not ?
As I know, there are differences between them.
If you don't know, I highly recommend to ask your Toyota Dealer first, how this unit can be plugged to the cars wiring.
Nevertheless I can send the original Toyota Wiring manual by email if you like. Then I need your email adress.
The message stays in the outbox since when I read it.
Then, once red, it will move to send box.
You are much better with high tech software rather than with forum software I think ;-)
ciao
enzo
You're right.
Do you know, how to install die 5860 driver ? I just got it from GNS support but can't test by myself cause I don't have a 5860 unit. And notice, although the installation instruction is discribed in "VCP_WinCE60_ReleaseNotes.txt" and additionally in "CP210xVCP.reg", I would not be able to analyse faults, if some occur. In any case the param "index" in file "CP210xVCP.reg" must to be modified before installing the driver !
Does anybody know how to dim the screen more than by default when lightning is on ?
strados said:
You're right.
Do you know, how to install die 5860 driver ? I just got it from GNS support but can't test by myself cause I don't have a 5860 unit. And notice, although the installation instruction is discribed in "VCP_WinCE60_ReleaseNotes.txt" and additionally in "CP210xVCP.reg", I would not be able to analyse faults, if some occur. In any case the param "index" in file "CP210xVCP.reg" must to be modified before installing the driver !
No I just ordered the unit and in China they are on vacation.
I want to have the unit at home and then I will see what to do.
ciao
I know, they celebrate Spring Festival. Shelley will be back in office today.
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