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Just wanted to add, my 2019 RAV4 XSE Hybrid is doing the same thing, both sides. I’m actually rubbing the tail light on the passenger side now when closing the door now.
Mine is almost rubbing too. I called Toyota Corporate after the dealer was dragging their feet. It took over a month for some reason, but they finally said they’re going to order parts and it will be covered under warranty. The dealer is still dragging their feet though, it’s still not fixed yet.
 

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That has to be disappointing for you. An acquaintance of mine had one hinge break on his 2019 Limited. This was about a year ago and it still has not been fixed. The dealer refused to fix it saying he must have tried to close the hatch while it was obstructed. He swears that this never happened. The dealer cited that the weather-stripping around the hatch opening had a very small tear in it. In the meantime he continues to drive around with the broken hinge. Good luck to you.
That’s completely unacceptable. The service advisor at my dealer accused me of breaking it as well. Mine still isn’t fixed yet, but Toyota corporate said they would fix it under warranty.
 

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Just to update you all, we did not have any success with Toyota corporate or the dealer. They blamed us, even though at initial look they said "there's no evidence you did anything to it". I've provided them with this forum. Toyota corporate told me to shop around for a different dealer... we had to have it fixed, as we were leaving on a month long road trip.

Both Toyota and the dealer have ghosted us now. I have not had the time or energy to follow up yet.
 

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Just to update you all, we did not have any success with Toyota corporate or the dealer. They blamed us, even though at initial look they said "there's no evidence you did anything to it". I've provided them with this forum. Toyota corporate told me to shop around for a different dealer... we had to have it fixed, as we were leaving on a month long road trip.

Both Toyota and the dealer have ghosted us now. I have not had the time or energy to follow up yet.
This is really Fd up. Toyota should be ashamed! This still haven’t fixed mine, last I heard they were “ordering parts.” I’m most likely never buying another Toyota.
 

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Hi,
I have a 2020 RAV4 hybrid with the power lift gate.
I have had the same experience as described above and the passenger side liftgate hinge bent just as the pictures above show.
This started with the liftgate not wanting to close under power - it would start down and then just stop. At first, it could be manually closed and would latch, but over a few days it got progressively worse (presumably as the hinge bent further).

I took it to the dealer as its still under warranty. Had a very long discussion with the service manager and they just would not fix it under warranty. This ended with them saying my only option would be to take it directly to Toyota.
They gave me an estimate for fixing it and it was $1400! Lots of very detailed stuff in the estimate including replacing both hinges (even though one looked fine) and 4.1 hours of labor for painting (I guess they wanted to paint that new hinge very carefully).

I decided to give the hinge replacement a try myself and ordered the part from the dealer ($54). I figured if it turned out to be beyond me I could just take the car and hinge to our nearby body shop and let them do it. Hinge just came in today (took about 3 days).

I just finished replacing the hinge and it was surprisingly easy -- less than 2 hours going very slow.
Step by step...
  • Took a bunch of closeup pics to document what the clearances were all around the hinge and tailgate.
  • Pulled the 3 push pins holding the aft end of the headliner in place.
  • Release the top of the trim panel around the passenger side rear window.
  • The above two steps allow you to pull down the headliner enough to get access to the bolts holding the hinge to the body.
  • Tied the liftgate to the tracks on my garage door to support the weight of the liftgate.
  • Did not do anything to the lift actuators.
  • Removed the two nuts holding hinge to body (12 mm). These are the bolts that look like rivets from the top, but are normal threaded bolts on bottom.
  • Removed the two bolts holding hinge to liftgate (also 12 mm).
  • Pulled the old hinge out and cleaned up the sealant around it with a chisel.
  • Put the new hinge into the body holes and secured with with the old nuts - loosely tightened.
  • I had cut some wood spacers to the gap sizes (vertical and horizontal) on the driver side hinge and I used these to position the passenger side of the lifetgate. I had to use a ratchet strap from back edge of liftgate to my roof rack to pull the liftgate forward so that spacing was the same as on the driver side and so that the two bolts holding the hinge to the lift gate could be inserted.
  • I thought that some sort of alignment would be necessary to get the door lined up with the new hinge, but decided to just fully tighten all the bolts on the new hinge and just see how bad it was.
  • Turned out it was fine with no adjustment - maybe just lucky. The door opens and closes and latches normally using the open and close buttons.

Just thought I would pass this on for others thinking about the DIY solution :)

Gary
 

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Hi,
I have a 2020 RAV4 hybrid with the power lift gate.
I have had the same experience as described above and the passenger side liftgate hinge bent just as the pictures above show.
This started with the liftgate not wanting to close under power - it would start down and then just stop. At first, it could be manually closed and would latch, but over a few days it got progressively worse (presumably as the hinge bent further).

I took it to the dealer as its still under warranty. Had a very long discussion with the service manager and they just would not fix it under warranty. This ended with them saying my only option would be to take it directly to Toyota.
They gave me an estimate for fixing it and it was $14000! Lots of very detailed stuff in the estimate including replacing both hinges (even though one looked fine) and 4.1 hours of labor for painting (I guess they wanted to paint that new hinge very carefully).

I decided to give the hinge replacement a try myself and ordered the part from the dealer ($54). I figured if it turned out to be beyond me I could just take the car and hinge to our nearby body shop and let them do it. Hinge just came in today (took about 3 days).

I just finished replacing the hinge and it was surprisingly easy -- less than 2 hours going very slow.
Step by step...
  • Took a bunch of closeup pics to document what the clearances were all around the hinge and tailgate.
  • Pulled the 3 push pins holding the aft end of the headliner in place.
  • Release the top of the trim panel around the passenger side rear window.
  • The above two steps allow you to pull down the headliner enough to get access to the bolts holding the hinge to the body.
  • Tied the liftgate to the tracks on my garage door to support the weight of the liftgate.
  • Did not do anything to the lift actuators.
  • Removed the two nuts holding hinge to body (12 mm). These are the bolts that look like rivets from the top, but are normal threaded bolts on bottom.
  • Removed the two bolts holding hinge to liftgate (also 12 mm).
  • Pulled the old hinge out and cleaned up the sealant around it with a chisel.
  • Put the new hinge into the body holes and secured with with the old nuts - loosely tightened.
  • I had cut some wood spacers to the gap sizes (vertical and horizontal) on the driver side hinge and I used these to position the passenger side of the lifetgate. I had to use a ratchet strap from back edge of liftgate to my roof rack to pull the liftgate forward so that spacing was the same as on the driver side and so that the two bolts holding the hinge to the lift gate could be inserted.
  • I thought that some sort of alignment would be necessary to get the door lined up with the new hinge, but decided to just fully tighten all the bolts on the new hinge and just see how bad it was.
  • Turned out it was fine with no adjustment - maybe just lucky. The door opens and closes and latches normally using the open and close buttons.

Just thought I would pass this on for others thinking about the DIY solution :)

Gary
Nice write-up. Did you happened to take any pictures? And replacing just one of the two hinges was the way to go? I would have thought that the "good" one would have been distorted at least a little? And did the bad hinge seem to be binding which may have caused the crack?
 

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Nice write-up. Did you happened to take any pictures? And replacing just one of the two hinges was the way to go? I would have thought that the "good" one would have been distorted at least a little? And did the bad hinge seem to be binding which may have caused the crack?
Hi,
Sorry - no pics.

I did think about replacing both hinges, but I was unsure enough about whether I could do the job that I decided to try just the one. And, the hinge on the driver side looked undamaged.
After taking out the damaged hinge and looking at it closely, I wonder if I could have straightened it out on my vise/anvil. It was bent, but there was no metal fracture. The thing that looks like a fracture on some of the pictures is actually a fracture in the sealant, not the hinge metal.

If the other hinge fails any time soon, I'll report back.

Gary
 

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Hi All, I have a 2022 Rav coming...sometime soon I hope and seeing this post starts the uneasy feeling about this car. I recently sold my 2020 Mazda CX5 grand touring because I got an offer I couldn't refuse and I wanted a Rav4 anyway, love Mazda but a couple things about that car that were bad news, Anyway...that car came with a power lift gate which I hate. I find them stupidly annoying. I live in a rainy state and 99.9% of the time I can have the thing opened get what I need and closed by hand before a power gate even opens. The trim level below the CX5 I got has a manual lift as standard so I ordered the manual parts and replaced my power gate parts with the manual struts and latch. worked like a charm.

Has anyone heard or do you know if that is possible with the Rav4? Is there a lower model that has a manual gate where I could swap the parts over? I know for a fact if I ask the parts guy at the dealer I am buying from he will tell me 'nope' without even looking. I ordered a TRD and first on my list is to figure out how to rid it of the power gate if at all possible.
 

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Hi All, I have a 2022 Rav coming...sometime soon I hope and seeing this post starts the uneasy feeling about this car. I recently sold my 2020 Mazda CX5 grand touring because I got an offer I couldn't refuse and I wanted a Rav4 anyway, love Mazda but a couple things about that car that were bad news, Anyway...that car came with a power lift gate which I hate. I find them stupidly annoying. I live in a rainy state and 99.9% of the time I can have the thing opened get what I need and closed by hand before a power gate even opens. The trim level below the CX5 I got has a manual lift as standard so I ordered the manual parts and replaced my power gate parts with the manual struts and latch. worked like a charm.

Has anyone heard or do you know if that is possible with the Rav4? Is there a lower model that has a manual gate where I could swap the parts over? I know for a fact if I ask the parts guy at the dealer I am buying from he will tell me 'nope' without even looking. I ordered a TRD and first on my list is to figure out how to rid it of the power gate if at all possible.
The XLE trim in the US also has a manual lift gate.
 

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The XLE trim in the US also has a manual lift gate.
I seems to me you would only have to change the struts to those for the manual gate and find and remove the fuse for the power liftgate (or disconnect the power wire to it if that doesn't set a code and a warning on the MID screen). I assume your RAV has the release button in the handle above the license plate.
 

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FEBRUARY 2020 UPDATE
a recall on the hinges should be coming soon. The hinges went out on my 2019 rav4 hybrid and the dealership sent my car to a body shop to get it fixed and Toyota corporate called the body shop and told them to stop working and document everything regarding the hinges cause they are in the process of getting a recall ready for the hinges. My dad who’s neighbor works in a different dealerships body shop confirmed that they had a meeting this week about the new hinges that Toyota will be sending out soon.
Have you heard any update about this or do you have any names or resources to reference? My dealership is trying to make me pay a body shop to get my hatch fixed so I’m hoping to gather some good talking points for when I talk directly with Toyota corporate on the issue.
 

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I seems to me you would only have to change the struts to those for the manual gate and find and remove the fuse for the power liftgate (or disconnect the power wire to it if that doesn't set a code and a warning on the MID screen). I assume your RAV has the release button in the handle above the license plate.
On the power lift gate, the last part of closing it sounds like a motor of some sort pulls the latch closed the last little bit once the gate is all the way down. Is this how the manual latch sounds? Probably not since to close the manual lift gate, you would "slam" it like closing a door.
 

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On the power lift gate, the last part of closing it sounds like a motor of some sort pulls the latch closed the last little bit once the gate is all the way down. Is this how the manual latch sounds? Probably not since to close the manual lift gate, you would "slam" it like closing a door.
I have a '21 ICE XLE with manual gate. There is no noise and absolutely no electric motor. You just grab the two internal handles and pull it down and it latches by its own weight.
 

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Does anyone have before and after pictures of their broken hinges that were repaired? Specifically after the repair was completed.
I’m in the process of having the dealer replace mine, under warranty, and am not happy with how they gave it back to me. They sent it out to a body shop to do the work, and to me it doesn’t look professional. They said they would take it back to the shop tomorrow to have my concerns addressed. Am I being unreasonable to think this should look better? Does anyone have any idea what the hard white part is? It looked almost like an epoxy or something. Lastly, when you close your powered liftgate are the 2 sides flush? When my hinges broke one side was rubbing, and now that it’s “fixed” it still isn’t flush!
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Does anyone have before and after pictures of their broken hinges that were repaired? Specifically after the repair was completed.
I’m in the process of having the dealer replace mine, under warranty, and am not happy with how they gave it back to me. They sent it out to a body shop to do the work, and to me it doesn’t look professional. They said they would take it back to the shop tomorrow to have my concerns addressed. Am I being unreasonable to think this should look better? Does anyone have any idea what the hard white part is? It looked almost like an epoxy or something. Lastly, when you close your powered liftgate are the 2 sides flush? When my hinges broke one side was rubbing, and now that it’s “fixed” it still isn’t flush! View attachment 176799
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Well, you did well getting them to repair it under warranty. I had a half hour plus discussion with the service manager and could not get them to do it under warranty - so, feel good about that.

It looks like they were a little sloppy with the sealer, but honestly it does not look much different than the way they come.

It seems to me the gaps on each side of the door should be the same. I replaced one of the hinges myself, and the gaps on mine are equal on each side. Not that i did anything special to achieve that - it just came out that way.
I'd be a bit concerned that if the door is not centered in the opening that it might eventually lead to rubbing on one side.
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Well, you did well getting them to repair it under warranty. I had a half hour plus discussion with the service manager and could not get them to do it under warranty - so, feel good about that.

It looks like they were a little sloppy with the sealer, but honestly it does not look much different than the way they come.

It seems to me the gaps on each side of the door should be the same. I replaced one of the hinges myself, and the gaps on mine are equal on each side. Not that i did anything special to achieve that - it just came out that way.
I'd be a bit concerned that if the door is not centered in the opening that it might eventually lead to rubbing on one side.
Gary
The dealer initially incorrectly accused me of breaking the hinge. It wasn’t until I got Toyota corporate involved and referenced this forum they they finally agreed to fix it. The door isn’t currently rubbing, but it was when the hinge was broken. I just don’t want it to get worse over time and rub again. I read somewhere else that someone had the same hinge break again after being repaired.
What sealer goes on it? It looked like it was 2 bolts and 2 rivets. I’ve attached a picture of a highlander hinge and it looks so much cleaner. This is more what I was hoping mine would look like.
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The dealer initially incorrectly accused me of breaking the hinge. It wasn’t until I got Toyota corporate involved and referenced this forum they they finally agreed to fix it. The door isn’t currently rubbing, but it was when the hinge was broken. I just don’t want it to get worse over time and rub again. I read somewhere else that someone had the same hinge break again after being repaired.
What sealer goes on it? It looked like it was 2 bolts and 2 rivets. I’ve attached a picture of a highlander hinge and it looks so much cleaner. This is more what I was hoping mine would look like. View attachment 176810
Do you recall who you spoke to at Toyota corporate? I’m having same issue and anytime I bring up this forum there stance is that they don’t accept any Information that isn’t from their own website.
 

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Do you recall who you spoke to at Toyota corporate? I’m having same issue and anytime I bring up this forum there stance is that they don’t accept any Information that isn’t from their own website.
All I remember is his first name was Eric. At that point though, my local dealer had already submitted it to corporate for approval. It’s really ridiculous how they try to blame us, when they know there’s an issue! Good luck!
 
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