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Anyone else already changed or planning to change out their OEM tires? Most vehicles typically come originally with what I would call as “second tier” tires. I typically when we get a new vehicle, drive it a couple of days to insure all is working as it should, then head over to my tire store and upgrade the tires over the OEM ones provided.

I am looking for better handling and better braking, and other improvements by going to premium tires. In the case of a RAV 4 hybrid and especially now the RAv4 Prime, another key is no significant lose in electrical range mileage.

I am pretty sure I have found my Prime’s replacement tires, the Michelin CrossClimate 2 A/S’s.

However if you have other tires I should consider, please let me know your recommendations.

Here’s why I am at this point going to get the Michelin C/C 2’s, noting that they are Michelin classified as an “Eco Focus: total performance energy saver” (their newer term replacing ‘GreenX’ on earlier version tires), a 3-peak mountain snowflake tire, and it having excellent wet and dry weather traction.”

a 3-peak

More than what Michelin says about them is here:



And a comparative test run by TireRack:

Pirelli P7 Cinturato Plus 2 vs Michelin Cross Climate 2 vs Bridgestone Turanza Quiet Track:

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=261

Or are most going to stay with the tires your Prime came with until they need replacement?
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On our Michelin CC 2‘s, we got 39 MPG gasoline mileage on a 1,750 mile trip with sometimes being over 80 MPG (hour after hour averaging 75), going up and down mountain passes, and a fair amount of crosswinds. Really good mileage on electricity alone but not\ disagreement that I probably lost maybe 2% when converting to the tires. That very minor loss is irreverent to me but perhaps not to you.

Not to mention the CC 2’s better handling, are safer, better steering, really good braking and superb rain capability. And all these are candidly not the CC2’s pre-eminent quality of superb snow handling.

When I had them rotated at 5,000 miles, neither I nor the tire specialist could discern any amount of wear. When then eventually wear out, I will get the same ones.
 

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On our Michelin CC 2‘s, we got 39 MPG gasoline mileage on a 1,750 mile trip with sometimes being over 80 MPG (hour after hour averaging 75), going up and down mountain passes, and a fair amount of crosswinds. Really good mileage on electricity alone but not\ disagreement that I probably lost maybe 2% when converting to the tires. That very minor loss is irreverent to me but perhaps not to you.

Not to mention the CC 2’s better handling, are safer, better steering, really good braking and superb rain capability. And all these are candidly not the CC2’s pre-eminent quality of superb snow handling.

When I had them rotated at 5,000 miles, neither I nor the tire specialist could discern any amount of wear. When then eventually wear out, I will get the same ones.
Are these 105H or 105V tires?
 

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On our Michelin CC 2‘s, we got 39 MPG gasoline mileage on a 1,750 mile trip with sometimes being over 80 MPG (hour after hour averaging 75), going up and down mountain passes, and a fair amount of crosswinds. Really good mileage on electricity alone but not\ disagreement that I probably lost maybe 2% when converting to the tires. That very minor loss is irreverent to me but perhaps not to you.

Not to mention the CC 2’s better handling, are safer, better steering, really good braking and superb rain capability. And all these are candidly not the CC2’s pre-eminent quality of superb snow handling.

When I had them rotated at 5,000 miles, neither I nor the tire specialist could discern any amount of wear. When then eventually wear out, I will get the same ones.
Thanks for the info. Consumer Reports also rates the CC2 highest of all performance tires suitable for R4P. They're exceptional in every category except for rolling resistance, (see attached image). That's why I was curious.
I'm still on the original PT20's but thinking of upgrading. I averaged 38MPG on gas for a 6800 mile trip NH to Colorado & Yellowstone Park & back so I have no complaints on mileage, but I like the idea of better traction.
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No complaints on my CC2 after almost 2k miles. I have plateaued at 54 estimated and actual EV miles. I get over 40 mpg HV mode around town. I got 34-35 mpg on a 700 mile highway trip, mostly at 70-75 mph. I did opt for the less expensive 105H rather than the OEM 105V that was also available. Supposedly, V-rated tires may add extra side wall stiffness for improved handling at the expense of ride comfort. I opted for ride comfort since I'm not on the track in my compact SUV ;-)
 

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For you Costco fans, $150 off /4 Michelins starts tomorrow 8/30 thru 9/26. The CC2's are calling.
Discount Tire has always matched and sometimes beaten Costco sale prices. Worth a look if DT is closer or Costco is out of stock. Plus the free rotations and air pressure at DT are a lot easier and faster than Costco.
 

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Discount Tire has always matched and sometimes beaten Costco sale prices. Worth a look if DT is closer or Costco is out of stock. Plus the free rotations and air pressure at DT are a lot easier and faster than Costco.
Maybe, but it's more fun to look at the new electronics, eat their snacks (they're back) and enjoy a walk around the store to buy something while waiting. The wine selection should take at least 10 minutes.
 

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Why? I plan on going with 105V, because that's what belongs on the vehicle, no?
I put on H. Aside from the 130 mph speed rating with H vs 149 for V, all else equal, the V rated supposedly may have slightly stiffer sidewalls for better handling vs better ride comfort with H.

If you are not sticking with OEM, then all bets are off anyway, except for the max speed rating. Another brand could be better in both handling and ride comfort and traction and treadwear etc. Or worse.
 

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H speed rating is more than enough for street legal vehicles. They will have the better construction vs S/T rated etc, but not need to meet crazy 149 mph standards. Longer life and more compliant ride, and cheaper to buy, generally.
 

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I see a lot of recommendations for the CC2s based on winter performance, and I'm wondering if there are any better options for those of us who don't ever drive in snow. Assume my priorities are dry traction, wet traction, and a quiet ride... is there anything better out there than the CC2s?
 

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I see a lot of recommendations for the CC2s based on winter performance, and I'm wondering if there are any better options for those of us who don't ever drive in snow. Assume my priorities are dry traction, wet traction, and a quiet ride... is there anything better out there than the CC2s?
Others you might want to consider: Continental Cross Contact LX 25, Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus, Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season Plus II
Toyota used the OEM tires because they are two pounds light than these other tires, so they can claim better gas mileage rather than great handling. The better the tires handle, the shorter their lifespan. I think so many like the CC2s because of handling and traction. The tread isn't affected as much as they wear, so they might give better performance over the life of the tire. Winter traction is just a bonus. They rate very well against other tires.
Good luck in your search.
 

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I debated between a separate set of winter wheels + tires or the CC2s. Ended up settling on the CC2s and ordered a set from Costco with their current sale. I live in CT where we get a few big snows a year but mostly dry. Only reason I considered the winter tires is because we may sometimes take the car to VT for skiing though likely we would take the Sienna since if has more room and that has snow tires already.
 
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