Cast the Pharisee out of thou shrine to the sacred holy sacred altar to the R4P! 😀
I negotiate hard but making up $7,500 off MSRP is pretty darn hard to do for a $40k automobile and that is what will soon be gone when Toyota hits 200 k sales in this quarter.The upside w/ getting a new ‘22: overhead buttons w/ LED (finally)!
Don’t care for USB-C, as a USB-A to USB-C cable are plentiful and cheap.
I forget if window switches have LED light.
If supply chains get back to normal, OP just might be able to break even. Competing PHEVs and no more MSRP. But then again more Fed Tax Cr. Maybe awash despite getting more than the used R4P is worth.
Did you make more than $9k profit?
Still have one RAV4P. Don’t know if next new car will be a RAV4. Bought a 2004 Lincoln Town Car with 53000 miles on it for $6000 that will serve me well for a few years. As fast as cars are changing I may be able to go full electric for next one. In the meantime I’ll invest the money from sale of car to maybe keep up with inflation.Did you make more than $9k profit?
After the market settles down, future R4P's will cost at least $1,500 more than the 2021's and there may be no tax credit later.
OP would NOT be buying a R4P to break even.I think it is wishful thinking to break even in the future buying a car with no tax credit or greatly reduced when inflation is running hot.
Escape PHEV has better price then Prime but it lacks in things that might matter to some, power, range and AWD. It's actually the slowest Escape with 0-60 in 8.5s. If that doesn't matter then it's a great car.or Z06 can order a 2023 Ford Maverick next year and get a $21k 40 mpg trucklet - not a bad deal. Pretty smart to lock in profits now, if you don't need to own a R4P.
I actually placed an order for a Ford Escape PHEV SE this week. Was able to order the exact options I wanted (not many - got to skip the unwanted hole in the roof and powered liftgate) and get X-plan pricing, which was $1200 or so off MSRP. We'll see on the timing, but it'll probably come in faster than my # comes up at Longo for a 2022 R4P at MSRP, and Ford won't surpass 200,000 credits sooner than Toyota - so my bets are hedged, either way.
I'd be happy to get into a PHEV for cheaper than the Prime, lock in a 'profit' on my 2021 and start another year of free vehicle ownership. Rinse & repeat until the PHEV tax credits are gone.
Ultimately, I'd like to see the Maverick offer the adaptive cruise on a model other than fully loaded $30k+ one, but failing that, a Rav4 hybrid XLE might be my 2023 vehicle. Much better value vs the Prime once the $7500 credit is gone. I don't enjoy owning a $45k vehicle - I want to not worry about bottoming out on rough roads, paint scratches, etc. Plus have more cargo space without the big battery, and get better hybrid mpg. We have the Prius Prime for around town EV still. I only jumped into a R4P b/c of the high resale and tax credit - making depreciation profitable!
Well done Z06 - only time I've made more than $7500 off a vehicle was during dieselgate
The fact that I can get into one under MSRP, actually order what I want, and it'll be thousands cheaper than the Rav are pluses. Plenty of power for us, and the efficiency increase is always welcomeEscape PHEV has better price then Prime but it lacks in things that might matter to some, power, range and AWD. It's actually the slowest Escape with 0-60 in 8.5s. If that doesn't matter then it's a great car.
been using both for a while and co-pilot is better then TSS for city driving or with stop and go traffic. It accelerates quicker and has 4 bars of distance adjustment. It is however stops too close which I don't like.I'm also interested in comparing TSS vs co-pilot for adaptive cruise.