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Both of these tires are really new by both companies, so it's hard to find good comparisons on the two. Plan on getting size 245/65/R17. My priorities are how they handle in the snow, weight/MPG, looks and road noise. Both are rated great in the snow and weigh almost the same so looking for people's thoughts on MPG and road noise. Thanks!
 
I went with 245/70/16 AT3s based on the reputation of the AT2s, the more aggressive sidewall, and the 65k mike warranty.

Toyo website lists the 245/65s as 34 lbs. Avg mpg is about 24-25 for mixed driving. I can’t comment on handling in the snow here in Texas, but my wife says they handle better thank stock. I heard minimal increase in road noise compared to factory tires, but I also drive a Jeep on 37” MTs so my tolerance to road noise is probably higher than most. Lastly, I’ll add that toyos seem to be much more common than the wildpeaks, at least in the Jeep world. Having said that, I’ve never owned or even ridden on the falkens so I cant say anything bad about them.
 
Both of these tires are really new by both companies, so it's hard to find good comparisons on the two. Plan on getting size 245/65/R17. My priorities are how they handle in the snow, weight/MPG, looks and road noise. Both are rated great in the snow and weigh almost the same so looking for people's thoughts on MPG and road noise. Thanks!
The AT Trail is really made specifically for these applications, the lower weight will help with handling and gas mileage.
 
I upgraded to the Wildpeak AT Trail in 245/65-17. I can't comment on snow, but …
  • Weight: I've noticed a slight difference in acceleration when in Eco mode. Doesn't seem any different in Normal. I hadn't been paying attention to MPG prior to testing them (fail on my part), but I'm now averaging 25 MPG around town.
  • Looks: I love the look. It gives the RAV a much more trail-ready appearance for sure. Also, going to 245 filled out the stance a bit. It's small, but noticeable if you're looking for it.
  • Road noise: No discernible difference with my ears.
 
Since there are so many OEM version installed, can the inclusion of the before tire when comparing things like road noise. For that matter, any comparison would benefit from the before tire.
 
I've been driving with Toyo AT3s (235/65-17) from day one. At first my milage was about 26-28mpg (mine's XLE hybrid, and I also have a Yakima Offgrid roof basket), but I attribute this to the cold. Now that it's summer here in NY, I get between 34-38mpg. I can tell you that driving around 50mph on an unplowed HOV (high occupancy vehicle) lane on the highway was a breeze. No slipping, and the RAV4 just stayed in its course. I was the only one driving on that lane that day.
 
Someone asked about this a while ago, so you may find some good opinions in this thread as well:


I really like my Wildpeak AT Trails! As an addition to my post on that discussion, I went camping a couple weekends ago and airing down to 30psi was enough to make a very rough mountain road comfortable (at appropriate speed for potholes, etc, of course). I have measured no uneven wear running them at 37-40psi on pavement.

MPG:
-On OEM Michelin Primacy:
Bought the car Feb2020. Avg MPG Feb-Jul in a mainly city commute was 36.4.
Moved, longer commute with more country miles. Avg MPG Aug-Dec was 42.8.
-Upgraded to Falken Wildpeak AT Trail in OEM 225/65/17 at the end of Dec2020, built and installed a roof rack in Jun2020.
Avg MPG Jan-May2020 was 40.4, down 2.4 from the OEM tires. This is the best number I can provide regarding the MPG impact of these tires alone.
Installed my roof rack Jun2020 and still average 40.4.

Hope any of this helps.
 
With Toyo Open Country A/T III, in highway under good condition, my MPG is usually 33-35. It reached 38+ MPG today! However, that does not mean Toyo Open Country A/T III is a good MPG tire. Comparing to the stock Falken Wildpeak A/T tires, I still lost about 2 MPG in the same highway under similar condition. Lost 2-4MPG in city driving.

Toyo Open Country A/T III's best MPG:

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I just installed some 245/75R16 E-Rated Toyo Open Country ATIIIs. After a lot of digging, and lots of application of transitive theory, the E-Rated ATIIIs edged out the E-rated Wildpeaks. For me, the minor difference came in road noise. They are not quiet, but they are definitely quiet for how aggressive the tread is. The two tires otherwise seem pretty equal in appearance, offroad, and snow traction.

I seem to have list about 1.5-2mpg relative to my previous ATs that were indeed E-rated, but held a much milder tread pattern.
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There is a new A/T with a much more aggressive tread pattern than either the Falken A/T3W or Toyo A/T3. This brand new tire (without many reviews) is the Maxxis Razr which is availabe from Les Schwab in the Pacific Northwest. It comes in 245/65-17.
 
Of note, the Toyo OC AT3s are indeed a bit louder than I expected. I would be surprised if Toyota would put tires this loud on a factory vehicle. They are louder than the Nitto Terra Grappler G2s that came on my wife's TRD Pro 4runner, but then again thosetires are at least 2x the price of either models in this thread...
 
Hey folks, I started my search this week for similar tires, and one shop pointed me to the Nokian Rotiiva in the 245/65-17 size. This is quite the tire, and they sell it to all the utility companies in my area which need this capability. Like many of the others it’s an All Weather tire, so also good for snow (and carries the mountain snowflake symbol which qualifies them for winter tire insurance discounts).

These just went to the top of my list when the time comes. One prime need for me is highway capabilities and as these are Euro tires, they generally would be good for high speeds too.

Thanks for the great thread!


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