Toyota RAV4 Forums banner
Cancel
Create thread New Garage Forums

Woodland Edition Suspension

3 reading
Jump to Latest
1 - 20 of 31 Posts
N

Northernpaw

· Registered
2022 RAV4 Trail / Adventure
Joined
·
34 Posts
Discussion starter · #1 ·
One of the main reasons for selecting the Woodland Edition over the XLE Premium is the TRD tuned suspension. There have been some discussions as to what this really means, everything from no different than regular models to twin tube shocks, custom springs, compressed wheel travel modifications and a few other tweaks, maybe sway bars and dampers are beefier?
Has anyone actually seen any difference between the models?
Any update on actual suspension for the Woodland?
Any similarities to the Adventure/trail model?
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
My RAV4 Woodland arrived today. Just drove from the dealership to home. Suspension feels a lot like my trail/adventure. Certainly stiffer than XLE. I’ll pull it into the garage tomorrow and have a closer look. I can compare them side by side.
 
#6 ·
Northernpaw said:
My RAV4 Woodland arrived today. Just drove from the dealership to home. Suspension feels a lot like my trail/adventure. Certainly stiffer than XLE. I’ll pull it into the garage tomorrow and have a closer look. I can compare them side by side.
Click to expand...
If you have measuring calipers (micrometer?) please measure the sway bar diameters on the XLE and the Woodland or use a cloth tape measure to check their circumferences. The rear bar should be easy to do. Also try to measure the diameters of a coil on the springs of each RAV. Measuring is the only way to visually see if there is really a difference. A photo won't tell us much. Even if the springs are painted a different color that means nothing. You could also count the number of coils on the front and rear springs of each RAV to see if they are different. You could also try to measure the compressed length of the springs on each car to see if there is a difference.
 
#7 ·
According to car and driver write up

Like the TRD Off-Road model, the RAV4 Woodland Edition has Falken Wildpeak all-terrain tires and a TRD suspension with different tuning for the springs, shocks, and bump stops. It also looks a bit more adventurous thanks to bronze wheels, and chunkier roof rack, mud flaps, and black badges and exhaust tips.
Inside, rubber all-weather floor mats are standard and come emblazoned with Woodland Edition decals.

There's also a 120-volt outlet in the cargo area. It's available in black, blue, and white exterior colors and comes only with the RAV4's all-wheel-drive hybrid drivetrain, a 2.5-liter inline-four combined with two electric motors that produces a total of 219 hp. That's more than the base four-cylinder's 203 hp, and in our testing the hybrid was quicker, getting to 60 mph in 7.4 seconds, 0.7 second quicker than the base engine.

It looks like a hybrid version of the TRD


I would say the main concern is even more dirt getting into the battery connector, I would be curious if they modified this for the new woodlands as it is toted as being more for off road
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
Mr.M said:
According to car and driver write up

Like the TRD Off-Road model, the RAV4 Woodland Edition has Falken Wildpeak all-terrain tires and a TRD suspension with different tuning for the springs, shocks, and bump stops. It also looks a bit more adventurous thanks to bronze wheels, and chunkier roof rack, mud flaps, and black badges and exhaust tips.
Inside, rubber all-weather floor mats are standard and come emblazoned with Woodland Edition decals.

There's also a 120-volt outlet in the cargo area. It's available in black, blue, and white exterior colors and comes only with the RAV4's all-wheel-drive hybrid drivetrain, a 2.5-liter inline-four combined with two electric motors that produces a total of 219 hp. That's more than the base four-cylinder's 203 hp, and in our testing the hybrid was quicker, getting to 60 mph in 7.4 seconds, 0.7 second quicker than the base engine.

It looks like a hybrid version of the TRD


I would say the main concern is even more dirt getting into the battery connector, I would be curious if they modified this for the new woodlands as it is toted as being more for off road
Click to expand...
I’ll have a look underneath and see if I can a pic of the cable. I’ll also look at the struts and mounts side by side with the Trail/Adventure
 
#9 ·
My local dealer is trying to sell me one. It has a $500 markup AND $290 port installed body graphic. Does anyone know what the body graphic is? This is a black woodland, so I can't imagine a black grpahic being put on, and white would be extremely ugly being that its a black and brass colored vehicle...
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
Ulieq said:
My local dealer is trying to sell me one. It has a $500 markup AND $290 port installed body graphic. Does anyone know what the body graphic is? This is a black woodland, so I can't imagine a black grpahic being put on, and white would be extremely ugly being that its a black and brass colored vehicle...
Click to expand...
That is not too bad of a mark up. XLE hybrid are on the used market for $3-5k over MSRP.
Curious to see the graphic… maybe bronze? They don’t have a pic?
 
#12 ·
Ulieq said:
My local dealer is trying to sell me one. It has a $500 markup AND $290 port installed body graphic. Does anyone know what the body graphic is? This is a black woodland, so I can't imagine a black grpahic being put on, and white would be extremely ugly being that its a black and brass colored vehicle...
Click to expand...

Pardon Our Interruption...

www.ebay.com

Toyota RAV4 Black Lower Body Graphics - PT7474221102 - Genuine Toyota Accessory

Black Lower Body Side Graphics provide a sporty look to your RAV4. Body side graphic helps define the RAV4 styling lines.
parts.toyota.com
 
#14 ·
I had a Woodland on order for months that came in about 10 days ago. Only able to pick it up a week ago and the temps have been below zero the entire time. The suspension feels really good over bumps, potholes, and railroad tracks. I tried to have the dealer parts department look up the part number of the shock to see if it was the same as that used on the TRD version, but we had no luck finding it. The trim is a weird mix of other trim levels. The Canadian and American versions also have differences between each other. The tires have done well in deep snow, but not as well as true winter tires on ice. Drove nice on the highway.
 
#15 ·
The US version of the RAV4 Hybrid Woodland Edition is a huge disappointment (compared to the Canadian version). 1) No heated seats option, 2) no heated steering wheel option, 3) no leather wrapped steering wheel option, 4) no moon roof option, 5) no power lift gate option, 6) only black cloth seats option - no soft-Tex seat option. Additionally, for being a “soft-roader”, 7) no front view camera option, 8) no skid plates, 9) same 8.1” ground clearance as the regular model, 10) Falken Wildpeak A/T tires are OEM versions that are not 3 peak snow rated. Most of the “upgrades” are just accessories and cosmetic embellishments (floor mats, black badging, bronze wheels, etc.) The main highlight is the TRD tuned suspension, but it’s unclear what exactly that includes. Is it really worth the 5-8 mpg hit compared to the regular hybrid?
 
#16 ·
bigjackets said:
The US version of the RAV4 Hybrid Woodland Edition is a huge disappointment (compared to the Canadian version). 1) No heated seats option, 2) no heated steering wheel option, 3) no leather wrapped steering wheel option, 4) no moon roof option, 5) no power lift gate option, 6) only black cloth seats option - no soft-Tex seat option. Additionally, for being a “soft-roader”, 7) no front view camera option, 8) no skid plates, 9) same 8.1” ground clearance as the regular model, 10) Falken Wildpeak A/T tires are OEM versions that are not 3 peak snow rated. Most of the “upgrades” are just accessories and cosmetic embellishments (floor mats, black badging, bronze wheels, etc.) The main highlight is the TRD tuned suspension, but it’s unclear what exactly that includes. Is it really worth the 5-8 mpg hit compared to the regular hybrid?
Click to expand...
I received a Woodland model 2 months ago and have 2000 miles on it and I can agree with everything you said. I would add that 11) the interior is very cheap and the plastics scratch quickly, 12) there is no padding on the side window sill, although the plastic is textured to make it look like it's padded, 13) no front windshield wiper defrosting elements on the glass which is engineering negligence (the wipers ice up when it is snowing), 14) the sound system speakers are crap, 15) the radio head software is buggy, constantly dropping connection to android auto on bluetooth or USB, 16) the bluetooth volume controls do not work at all when using youtube (which is my podcast source in other cars), 17) the default screen on the radio head is an advert for a $16/month map service, 18) although the new screen has no buttons, there is not more screen, but rather just a larger bezel, 18) in mine, the passenger seat rattles and driver's lumbar support doesn't stay fully inflated, 19) only came with 1 key FOB, 20) no full size spare, 21) roof rack rails are not adjustable (fixed at just over 25" apart, 22) the 2023 Toyota Safety Sense system is about equivalent to 2016 Subaru Eye Sight system (yes I know Toyota helped create eye sight for Subaru), but the lane centering is unreliable, 23) the "trees" design on the rear cargo area protection mat made it impossible to slide anything in or out of the back (I replaced it with an after market one.)

On the plus side, the drivetrain is awesome. It pushes full power to the rear motor without hesitation, which I think was a short coming of earlier models of the RAV4 hybrid. Mine will chirp the rear wheels. The suspension feels very hard on normal roads, but behaves well on rough roads. The wheels look great. I get great mileage as a daily driver and the price point was low compared to the competition.

I heard Toyota is only making 6,500 of the Woodland Edition RAV4s. It is really just an instragram model of a RAV4. Looks great on the outside, but the inside is more like a base model Nissan.
 
#17 ·
bueno1 said:
I received a Woodland model 2 months ago and have 2000 miles on it and I can agree with everything you said. I would add that 11) the interior is very cheap and the plastics scratch quickly, 12) there is no padding on the side window sill, although the plastic is textured to make it look like it's padded, 13) no front windshield wiper defrosting elements on the glass which is engineering negligence (the wipers ice up when it is snowing), 14) the sound system speakers are crap, 15) the radio head software is buggy, constantly dropping connection to android auto on bluetooth or USB, 16) the bluetooth volume controls do not work at all when using youtube (which is my podcast source in other cars), 17) the default screen on the radio head is an advert for a $16/month map service, 18) although the new screen has no buttons, there is not more screen, but rather just a larger bezel, 18) in mine, the passenger seat rattles and driver's lumbar support doesn't stay fully inflated, 19) only came with 1 key FOB, 20) no full size spare, 21) roof rack rails are not adjustable (fixed at just over 25" apart, 22) the 2023 Toyota Safety Sense system is about equivalent to 2016 Subaru Eye Sight system (yes I know Toyota helped create eye sight for Subaru), but the lane centering is unreliable, 23) the "trees" design on the rear cargo area protection mat made it impossible to slide anything in or out of the back (I replaced it with an after market one.)

On the plus side, the drivetrain is awesome. It pushes full power to the rear motor without hesitation, which I think was a short coming of earlier models of the RAV4 hybrid. Mine will chirp the rear wheels. The suspension feels very hard on normal roads, but behaves well on rough roads. The wheels look great. I get great mileage as a daily driver and the price point was low compared to the competition.

I heard Toyota is only making 6,500 of the Woodland Edition RAV4s. It is really just an instragram model of a RAV4. Looks great on the outside, but the inside is more like a base model Nissan.
Click to expand...
What mode gives you the max power at the rear? Note NX in avatar, just learning it myself.
 
#18 ·
bt10 said:
What mode gives you the max power at the rear? Note NX in avatar, just learning it myself.
Click to expand...
Normal mode does, so likely sport too. I notice whenever I pull off from a stop with normal acceleration, the power to the rear appears to be at 75% for a brief moment. If I accelerate hard or driving on snow and ice I'll see it hit 100 percent.

Trail mode seems useless to me, but I won't know until there are some dirt roads to drive on again. I ran through 8-9 inches of wet snow and it drove better in normal mode than when in trail mode. Both cases with traction control still on, but trail mode had much more trouble moving the vehicle forward. In those conditions the system will also drive the rear motor with 75-100% pulses.

I like the tech in the Lexus, just not a fan of the front grill.
 
#19 · (Edited)
bueno1 said:
I received a Woodland model 2 months ago and have 2000 miles on it and I can agree with everything you said. I would add that 11) the interior is very cheap and the plastics scratch quickly, 12) there is no padding on the side window sill, although the plastic is textured to make it look like it's padded, 13) no front windshield wiper defrosting elements on the glass which is engineering negligence (the wipers ice up when it is snowing), 14) the sound system speakers are crap, 15) the radio head software is buggy, constantly dropping connection to android auto on bluetooth or USB, 16) the bluetooth volume controls do not work at all when using youtube (which is my podcast source in other cars), 17) the default screen on the radio head is an advert for a $16/month map service, 18) although the new screen has no buttons, there is not more screen, but rather just a larger bezel, 18) in mine, the passenger seat rattles and driver's lumbar support doesn't stay fully inflated, 19) only came with 1 key FOB, 20) no full size spare, 21) roof rack rails are not adjustable (fixed at just over 25" apart, 22) the 2023 Toyota Safety Sense system is about equivalent to 2016 Subaru Eye Sight system (yes I know Toyota helped create eye sight for Subaru), but the lane centering is unreliable, 23) the "trees" design on the rear cargo area protection mat made it impossible to slide anything in or out of the back (I replaced it with an after market one.)

On the plus side, the drivetrain is awesome. It pushes full power to the rear motor without hesitation, which I think was a short coming of earlier models of the RAV4 hybrid. Mine will chirp the rear wheels. The suspension feels very hard on normal roads, but behaves well on rough roads. The wheels look great. I get great mileage as a daily driver and the price point was low compared to the competition.

I heard Toyota is only making 6,500 of the Woodland Edition RAV4s. It is really just an instragram model of a RAV4. Looks great on the outside, but the inside is more like a base model Nissan.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the feedback and the great details! Yeah I really wish they at least give customers the option to add a few package options if so desired. Softex, heated seats, heated leather wrapped steering wheel would be nice.

I didn't know about the fit and finish build quality. I wonder if there's a noticeable difference between the LE, XLE trims vs. the higher XLE premium, XSE and Limited trims. I know when I test drove a used 2021 Rav4 Hybrid LE, I noticed the drive side mirror shake dramatically. I wanted to test the lane centering function but didn't really get a chance to. I heard it's not as good as the lane center/keep assist on the Hondas. But oh well... I guess not major deal breakers for some.

I read about the 1key FOB at the time of purchase. They said that Toyota would mail customer the 2nd key FOB at a later time. Is that not the case for you? Did the dealer ever mention that? No full size spare definitely sucks, especially given that there's space to accommodate a full size spare. Subaru Forester Wilderness offers a full size spare wheel of the exact spec.

Interesting to hear about the TRD tuned suspension and it being harsh/hard on normal pavement and asphalt roads? Is it harsh over potholes and imperfections in the road? Is it better on gravel trails or washboard roads? I do agree that the price point for the trim and the 6500 limited series are part of the appealing aspects.
 
1 - 20 of 31 Posts
About this Discussion
30 Replies
14 Participants
Last post:
Jefe'sTRD
Toyota RAV4 Forums
posts
1.1M
members
174K
Since
2004
Rav 4 World is the internet's largest Toyota Rav4 SUV and EV online forum community. Discuss towing, modifications, and more.
Full Forum Listing
Explore Our Forums
4.3 General 4.3 Mechanical 4.5 RAV4 Hybrid (except Prime) 4.5 RAV4 Prime 4.3 Exterior